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For many senators, tobacco bill is personal
AP ^ | 6/10/09 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/10/2009 3:26:30 PM PDT by Drango

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To: Hank Kerchief

God Bless you!!!


61 posted on 06/10/2009 8:27:33 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Drango

“3,500 x 365 = 12.7 million..a year..I call BullSh%t !”

“OK...There are about 32 million kids 10-18.”

You have a range of 8 years for the 32 million kids above. If you take the 12.7 million and multiply it by 3(years), that would mean that all the kids would be smoking in 2.519 years. That is right, if the 12.7 millions kids per year start smoking and there are 32 million kids, then all kids from 10-18 will be smoking in less than 3 years.


62 posted on 06/10/2009 8:40:10 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Chuzzlewit

Believe it or not, I don’t ever see tobacco labelled as a banned substance.

Our politicans are addicted.

But they’re not addicted to the nicotine. They’re addicted to the geysers and boatloads of money they get from taxing and regulating it.

Banning it would eliminate an important source of revenue for the feds as well as many state governments. They’ll never let that happen.


63 posted on 06/10/2009 8:47:14 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Drango

His father died of lung cancer at age 53 but his brother kept smoking? Sorry, but the brother was an idiot.


64 posted on 06/10/2009 8:50:30 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: DJ MacWoW

Just wait until they [openly] go after caffeine.

The last medical exam paperwork I filled out listed nicotine and caffeine right in there along with “illegal drugs”, etc in the “substance abuse” check boxes.

Enjoy your coffee and Coke...while you can.


65 posted on 06/11/2009 4:58:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Drango

The Democrat philosophy...

Here kids, have some medical marijuana, biodegradable condoms for gay sex makes it natural, but don’t you dare smoke a cigarette after!

Makes sense?

What we need is to get a medical tobacco initiative on the ballot!


66 posted on 06/11/2009 5:20:49 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Drango

The Democrat philosophy...

Here kids, have some medical marijuana, biodegradable condoms for gay sex makes it natural, but don’t you dare smoke a cigarette after!

(DON”T FORGET ABOUT THE CLEAN HYPODERMIC NEEDLE EXCHANGE FOR YOUR INTRAVENOUS DRUGS!)

Makes sense?

What we need is to get a medical tobacco initiative on the ballot!


67 posted on 06/11/2009 5:23:04 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Salamander

DC is drunk on the power that control gives them. And apparently there are even some freepers that fall for the propaganda. It all sounds good but the results are deadly to a republic.


68 posted on 06/11/2009 5:33:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango

I don’t see tobacco causing that.

I also don’t see the government fixing any of that.


69 posted on 06/11/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I reckon I’m a weirdo, then.

I’ll fight for other’s rights for something they do/have/eat/drink, even if it’s something *I* wouldn’t touch with a ten foot people because *they* have that right.

Apparently, some people cherry pick the “rights” they believe should be preserved.

Eventually and with dead certainty, something *they* want the right to will land on the chopping block, too.

As an example, perfume makes me sick as a dog but you don’t see *me* starting a crusade to have it banned in all public places, do you?

If people wanna spray themselves with formaldehyde and a host of other unregulated, potentially toxic “secret ingredients”, more power to them.

I’ll just move upwind.

To some, cigarettes are “poison”, to others, perfume.

One is socially acceptable, the other is not yet the “sufferers” get equally sick.

Social programming.
That’s the ticket.


70 posted on 06/11/2009 2:02:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander

I guess we are both weird as I don’t think expanding government control is a good thing either.


71 posted on 06/11/2009 2:25:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Fine.
We’ll just create a “FR Weirdo Corner” and sit and talk amongst ourselves...:)


72 posted on 06/11/2009 4:34:28 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander

If the Congress would stop at the regulation phase, it could be a good thing adding crap to cigarettes without regulating what is permissible was always a stupid dichotomy to allowing only ‘approved’ OTC meds. But History tells us the Congress can never reign itself in when it finds another way to throw it’s obscene weight around.


73 posted on 06/11/2009 4:38:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

When they get power, they go mad...and now they’re running the asylum.


74 posted on 06/11/2009 4:54:18 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander
There is something much more ominous about the current democrat control of what used to be our government. This affirmative action figure is running the nation through czars, and the democrat controlled House and Senate like that arrangement even as they see it is killing the economic system through which the nation became great.

When the democrats finish the first four years of their current absolute control, there will be no returning to ‘a better place’, the damage will have been done and final, and the serfdom of the masses will be complete.

The democrats are systematically taking federal control of every economic/commerce aspect of any significance in your life, and they will not allow it to stop or be altered until they have ended every crumb of what was once a Constitutional Republic where We The People were the actual sovereigns.

We now live under a growing federal oligarchy, as 'tax serfs' fit only for paying the debts the democrats are running up for too many generations to have to pay back ... the debt will end our Republic and sweep us into a world order with control outside the boundaries of this nation.

Democrats and too many Republicans are incapable of self governance in a Constitutional Republic. Maybe another will arise in afew generations, but unless human nature takes a 'grow up and take responsibility' turn, that Constitutional Republic will end with similar ignominies. A nation that lacks the spiritual discernment to see that willfully defending the murder of tens-of-millions of her alive unborn, for selfish reasons, is a nation incapable of self control and therefore self rule.

75 posted on 06/11/2009 5:07:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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I am so glad (Overjoyed, really) that the majority opinion on this forum is the way it is.

Too bad the minority opinion is the same as the librats in Washington.


76 posted on 06/11/2009 5:11:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Gabz

Ping!


77 posted on 06/11/2009 5:15:05 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: MHGinTN

I know.
I’m a nervous wreck over it and have no idea what to do about it.

I just pray.


78 posted on 06/11/2009 6:36:16 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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