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You Be Obama
New York Times ^ | June 15, 2009 | David Brooks

Posted on 06/16/2009 9:42:52 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1
'You Be Obama'

No thanks.
But I could have been. However I chose to be someone with scruples instead.

I became a Pimp.

(no sarcasm tag needed)

21 posted on 06/16/2009 10:51:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: reaganaut1
Pay is divorced from performance.

This is more true of lawyers than doctors.

22 posted on 06/16/2009 10:52:48 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: cweese
"You Be Obama"

I'd hang myself!

23 posted on 06/16/2009 10:54:00 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: classified
A guy on Rush just ask where is the crisis in our current Health Care? Good question!

Not that I agree with all this, but here are the talking points you hear:

1. 45 Million Uninsured (of which 10 million are our Mexican guests, and a bunch are people making enough to buy insurance but don't, and the rest are young people who don't see the need).

2. The Government funded programs are bankrupt and may drag down the entire US government in time. Medicare is a bigger problem than Social Security. We spend more on a per capita basis on our public health care than any other country, yet only 40% of citizens get anything for it. (The old, the young, the poor, the rest of us pay but get zip.)

3. Costs on the private sector are high, and rising. This supposedly makes USA less competitive as an employer. (But the same people who whine about this don't ever consider the cost of OSHA, EPA, OECC, and dozens of other government regulatory schemes, so they are at best disgenious)

4. The USA subsidizes the cost of new drugs via high prices. Canada pays less for the same drugs. Why?

5. It is difficult to acquire insurance if you have any pre-existing condition.

6. It is expensive to get insurance if you are a self-employed person.

7. Because of the above medical expenses are the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy.

Etc. You've probably heard them all before...

My thinking is that almost all of the problems are the result of previous government intervention. The reason health care is even linked with employment is a leftover from FDRs new deal where wage and price controls made giving people a raise a crime. So companies gave health insurance to entice people to work at their factory vs their competitors.

The fact that the part of the healthcare system the Government ALREADY runs is bankrupting us seems to say to me that they should FIX THAT FIRST before messing with the part that isn't that broken.

24 posted on 06/16/2009 11:04:37 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: classified
You bring up a good point. Most of these big spending - big government projects can never be reversed once they're initiated. Can you imagine the gnashing of teeth if a future President tried to "deny the poor health care" by abolishing socialized medicine?

We still have "temporary" government programs left over from the 1930s. One of my favorites was a government guaranteed, no interest loan that was supposed to help rural farmers run electric lines to their homes. That program was still around the last I heard and the loans were going to a bunch of Chicago lawyers who figured out loopholes in the program.

25 posted on 06/16/2009 11:27:52 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: reaganaut1

More of this “INHERITED” BS..........!!


26 posted on 06/16/2009 11:35:51 AM PDT by cranked
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To: reaganaut1

>Pay is divorced from performance. Users are separated from costs.

How is that different from socialized health-care? It seems like an apt descriptor to me.


27 posted on 06/16/2009 3:43:02 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NTHockey

>The first sentence is a flat out, blatant lie. Everything after that is a waste of time, effort and money

“Let’s say that you are President Obama.”? That sounds more like the set-up for a hypothetical than a lie to me; the sentences of the first paragraph following it, however, are a fallacious set-up.


28 posted on 06/16/2009 3:46:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mbynack
Yep! Just like taxes...They always go up and never come back down. Once a government takes over the Health Care we are doomed for eternity to Government run Health Care. This is why Obama is so Hell bent on getting this passed now. This is the base & form to the whole socialized society.
29 posted on 06/16/2009 4:39:20 PM PDT by classified
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To: mbynack

>We still have “temporary” government programs left over from the 1930s.

Yep, the government gathers more cruft than the Unix operating system... and that’s saying something.


30 posted on 06/16/2009 6:24:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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