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Obama Health Bill: Those on Social Security - Mandatory Counseling on Asst. Suicide
Fred Thompson Show ^

Posted on 07/17/2009 3:46:14 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: My Favorite Headache

I don’t see it. There is a lot of talk about ‘advance care planing’ which is establishing in advance what sort of extent you would like physicians to take with your life if you are unable to make those decisions yourselves. You sign similar papers today when you have surgery. I don’t see ‘assisted suicide.’

There is plenty to scream about in this bill. Let’s not make stuff up.


21 posted on 07/17/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
My 75 year old mother is very stressed and heart broken by this.

She sees young people, her own, as wanting to kill her.

This is immoral folks, downright immoral. They are killing people by even proposing this.

Eject the false Obama, he is an emissary of Satan.

22 posted on 07/17/2009 3:58:36 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
She refers to Page 425 of the house bill that mandates every 5 years people on Medicare have to have a mandatory counseling session on how to shorten their life???

WTF???

23 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:19 PM PDT by Gabrial
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m seeing all sorts of requirements for consultations on end-of-life treatment, development of Living Wills, etc., starting on p.425. Really bad, intrusive, statist, Orwellian stuff. But I’m not seeing pushing of suicide or anything of the sort. Perhaps some other Freeper will note some detail that has escaped me.


24 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:23 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: newheart
I, too, looked at the actual bill, just now. It's not what the show clip, and the caller, and this thread claims.

Mea cupla

25 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Lazamataz

Obama is following Adolf Hitlers play book. He’s dividing people into classes, determining what people are more worthy, and what people are less. He appointed a man to oversee Environmental issues who believes in FORCED abortion, and sterilization. He has taken over the banks, the auto industry, health care, and...is about to take over the media. Now we find out that he wants to encourage older Americans to commit suicide. Any of this sound familiar yet? Now, Bush was not the greatest President, but Obama makes him look more and more like Ronald Reagan every day.


26 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:24 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: Lazamataz

Barry Obama got a taste for it while an Illinois state senator, working to keep the law from stopping the killing of just born alive infants, murdered via purposed neglect which sometimes took up to eight hours to kill the struggling to breath little boy or girl.


27 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The bill doesn’t say what the author claims. I mean if you really twist it and squint your eyes you might be able to find a way to claim it says it, but it really doesn’t.


28 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I think the thugs are loading this with a bunch of crap so NHC bill will not get through congress. There is no money for this boondoggle ,they know it.

When it fails they can blame congress and say," Well we tried."

29 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:35 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: My Favorite Headache

I don’t see that in the bill. It talks about advance care planning, but that isn’t about assisted suicide, it’s about dealing with terminal illnesses and when to cease taking extraordinary measures.


30 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:39 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: My Favorite Headache

There is no source for this. Your link goes to the show page ... but doesn’t say which transcript, or who make this statement.

Without it, the assertion is worthless.


31 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:53 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: newheart

Listen to the interview.


32 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:58 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: newheart; All

Agreed 100%. I read pages 425-440 and saw nothing even close to suicide or euthanasia.


33 posted on 07/17/2009 4:01:02 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I’m glad we went to the source. We nearly got took.


34 posted on 07/17/2009 4:01:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Tennessee Nana
For more of Betsey McCauhey

Whatever health insurance bill is passed in Congress MUST apply to members of Congress and other federal employees. No Exceptions. If it isn't good enough for them, it isn't good enough for us.

35 posted on 07/17/2009 4:02:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

NO elected senators or representatives will ever read this HUGE bill....and it will be RUSHED to a vote before a recess. People better wake up!


36 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:13 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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37 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:13 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Lazamataz; Admin Moderator

Should this thread be yanked? I think it’s misleading, and that’s being generous.


38 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:34 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: BunnySlippers

If you read down the thread you would see I referred you to the interview with Betsy McCaughey Patient Advocate and Founder of the Committee to Reduce Invectious Deaths


39 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:52 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: My Favorite Headache

At least it will help save money by killing Democrats.


40 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The UN has never won a war, nor a conflict, but liberals want it to rule all militaries.)
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