Posted on 02/19/2010 9:27:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
Thanks. Maybe next time you don’t show up on a thread like this acting so smug and superior.
We ‘birthers’ get enough of that elsewhere.
“Maybe next time you don’t show up on a thread like this acting so smug and superior.
No, I’ll still do that.
First, let's see if he even has the power to look at these other things.
the task of responding to requests for Obama's birth certificate has fallen to Okubo, who until January had been spending 10-hour days primarily dealing with the H1N1 "swine flu" pandemic.
The pandemic that never was? The swine flu is so last week year. Okubo needs to be fired for wasting the taxpayers' money and failing do perform job duties.
I'm getting 40 to 50 requests every month for President Obama's birth certificate, all of them from the Mainland — Arizona, South Carolina, Florida," Okubo said. "None are from Hawai'i."
True number or not, it proves this is a hot issue and both the WH and the HI Health Dept. need to address it. As for the "none from Hawaii", well, that's hard to believe and most would be walk-ins rather than email.
But about a dozen people continue to hammer Okubo with follow-up requests.
Three cheers for Butter The Hammer!!!
I'm reading the comments and about 90% so far are demanding release of the long form. I wonder how the newspaper will respond. Yo, Obubo, how's that whining working for you now?
If I am not allowed to get what is accessible to any person according to Hawaii statute and rules - because some bureaucrat labels me a “vexatious requestor” - then not only am I suffering a personal injury, but the bureaucrats have been given permission to totally ignore open records laws or any other laws simply because they use the Alinsky tactic of labeling somebody they don’t like. It’s what Judge Robertson of “The Magnificent Seven” fame has tried to do with Orly also. Only this is not at a community-organizer, peon level. This is at the state legislature and Circuit Court level. Wow. Just wow.
This is supposed to get a hearing in Hawaii. Anybody from Hawaii who doesn’t want to see your open records laws totally destroyed better speak up now.
That’s the level they’re going to with this. They are unwilling to undo the open records law’s real power for the sake of covering for Obama - and all this in response to having received an official request for an investigation of illegal and unethical behavior which has been documented online.
Trying to undo the open records laws as well as all the other laws and rules they’ve ignored or outright disobeyed. Maybe I need to add that to my blog when I get some time.
I have to go to work very shortly, but if somebody could post the link to the Red Flags article in the comments part of the Advertiser article I would appreciate it.
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
Thanks, bgill. You’ve been a huge help. Er.. your help has been huge. lol.
Oops. They are WILLING to undo the open records law.
(I’m hurrying before I head to work and should be previewing. Sorry about the errors, guys.)
That right there is funny no matter who you are.
Right up there with "... no controlling legal authority."
Read the text on this thing. Hilarious, if it wasn’t so chilling. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/bills/SB2937_.pdf
Particularly one of the things that is noted as helping to establish a pattern of “vexatious” behavior:
-(5) Institution of proceedings under this chapter,
including appealing requests or submitting complaints
or investigation requests, without a reasonable
ground, or to accomplish an objective unrelated to the
purpose of the proceedings;
Proof right there that Espero is mad, mad, mad about my request for an official investigation of CORRUPTION IN THE GOVERNMENT - which is the primary reason they have open records laws in the first place.
This is an attempt to undo the open records law whenever somebody gets a little too close to home for the corrupt controllers in Hawaii.
This should be broadcast all over.
We knew after a short time of dealing with the DOH and OIP that they were not going to give us what is legally required. That is when, for me, it became an issue of government corruption and the failure of law enforcement. To say that my request for an investigation of illegal activity by government officials means that I should be allowed to be ignored is absolutely a violation of the spirit and letter of the UIPA law.
I need to note here also - this bill doesn’t just apply to the DOH. This bill allows ANY AGENCY to get rid of people who get too close to knowing the truth.
This absolutely needs to be broadcast all over. They are trying to effectively undo the open records law.
Allowing the OIP to determine who is a “vexatious requestor” is particularly chilling, given that the OIP itself has been mentioned in my official request as needing to be investigated.
And one last thing. The DOH and OIP both are already able to ignore “vexatious” requests - they simply refuse to acknowledge that they’ve ever received the request and then say they never got it. Both groups have done this to me.
How many conflicting stories are there about Obama?
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/19/obama-has-lied-to-the-press-for-3-decades/
vex·a·tious–adjective
1.causing vexation; troublesome; annoying: a vexatious situation.
2.Law. (of legal actions) instituted without sufficient grounds and serving only to cause annoyance to the defendant.
3.disorderly; confused; troubled.
One could argure this would be vexatious legislation.
:-)
One would feel mighty superior to draw that conclusion. And One would be wrong on both accounts.
“One could argure this would be vexatious legislation.
:-)”
Not her specifically, but this legislation is arguably a direct result of the hysteria surrounding the issue and the amount of time the Hawaiian DOH has had to put towards dealing with the matter.
Just to make sure we are on the same wave length, my lame attempt at a joke meant to say the legislation would be “instituted without sufficient grounds and serving only to cause annoyance to the defendant. (ie those who make a BC request)”
:-)
Of course. But butterdezillion seems convinced it’s actually a direct response to her silly blog post on “red flags,” most of which exist nowhere but in her imagination.
And that’s just sad.
I just tried to register to comment on the Advertiser article. They said they sent me an e-mail that I have to respond to. I received one e-mail but it immediately disappeared. I checked my deleted e-mails box and it wasn’t there.
Somebody gave them my e-mail address because Dan Nakaso e-mailed my personal e-mail address to ask me to call him so he could interview me for this article. I think it may have been the administrators at obamaconspiracy.org who gave the e-mail address, since it’s required to log in over there.
So anyway, the Advertiser won’t let me comment on their article. They also won’t let their article be the source article here at Free Republic - or so I was told when I first tried to post this thread and used the Advertiser article as the source.
If somebody could please post the link to my blog article,
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ , I’d appreciate it.
Someone could also post the text of the proposed bill, which shows how very much that proposal is a response to the information contained in the blog post. The link is http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/bills/SB2937_.pdf
There is no way that people should be able to say, after all this, that there is nothing to support the claims that something fishy is going on in Hawaii.
Ah, thanks for clarifying, I already had the gloves out=)
*puts them away*
I am sorry I didn’t get your lame joke! *wink*
=)
I think for Espero it’s more a response to my official request for an investigation. See #5 on the actions that can get you labelled a “vexatious requestor”.
When holy heck is raised the question in government always becomes, “Who knew what, and when?” Espero is mad because I have proof that he (and all HI legislators) were informed of the illegal activity long ago so he can’t even deny his complacency when this all breaks loose. Nothing to lose for him so he may as well try to get rid of the open records laws before ANYBODY requests an investigation of anybody (including him).
This is blatant CYA.
Perhaps. But I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.
I am laughing so hard right now. I should know better than to try to make a joke about a word I had to look up.
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