Posted on 03/19/2010 4:50:15 AM PDT by jenk
In Michigan's First District, pro-health care reform commercials are running on television and radio. Every other commercial is about how wonderful healthcare reform is. Bart Stupak is the representative of the First District.
Catholics United has a commercial that stresses that there is no abortion in the health care reform proposal.
It is getting extremely hard to keep a cool head these days.
"Beginning today, Catholics United will run television ads intended to set the record straight about false allegations of federal abortion funding in the Senate health care bill. The 30-second spots will remind undecided pro-life legislators and their constitutes that taxpayer funding of abortion is expressly prohibited in pending health care legislation, and that the bill has earned the support of a broad swath of the Catholic community."
On the side bar of the website, a question is posed, "What's not Catholic about Community Organizing."
(Excerpt) Read more at catholics-united.org ...
During Lent!! We are participating in prayer and fasting for 4o days to end abortion, and suddenly, the common good trumps telling the truth.
Let these “catholics” face their maker after defending the liberal death industry.
But-- the "common good"? -- there's nothing personal about that. I have no use for collectivism. I see it as dehumanizing. I'm against treating any individual human as simply a member of a general class. They disappear that way.
People who emphasize thecommon good are up to no good as far as I'm concerned.
No, I’m a real Catholic!
“Common Good” is a bumpersticker that is attached to garbage legislation, in the hope of gaining support.
"Catholics United" is the present reincarnation of "Catholics for Obama" --- literally, interlocking or reduplicating boards of directors, staff, and members --- and they've learned that using Catholic-sounding terms will effectively camouflage socialist aims, especially when the intended audience knows next to nothing about Catholicism.
Excuse me while I got pound my head against a wall.
This is simply communism “cloaked” as Christanity.
They chose that name for themselves because “Communist Party USA” was already taken, and “Lying spawn of Satan” didn't focus group well.
On the website for “Catholics United,” there is a set of links to Facebook pages of supporters.
“Christina” is a supporter of two different state chapters of NARAL, the pro-abortion lobby. “James” advocates revocation of tax-exempt status for churches who take a stand on controversial public issues, even though other “friends” are writing the bishops to support ObamaCare. “Jason” supports same-sex marriage throughout the United States. Although they claim 933 Facebook “friends,” “Catholics United” only lists ten, so that is as far as my survey can go.
Yes, I feel the same way.
Comforting the sick along with aiding the poor are an individual choice not a collective choice.
Taking a page from Milton Friedman, If I believe that the most efficient way of using my wealth to help the needy is to help the alcoholic begging on the street, then that should my choice.
Passing a bill that provides aid(redistributes wealth—social justice) to the needy in the name of the ‘common good’ is just an excuse by the left to ease their guilt of not using their own wealth for the common good.
When we die, that is how we will be judged —INDIVIDUALLY— by our Creator.
Ya know, its about time the “Catholic Church” (that is the real church with the Pope in Rome) should consider steps to take legal ownership of the name “Catholic” - like the NFL does with it’s name.
Organizations like this one and the “catholichealthcare.us” have no church affiliation, yet openly claim to represent a “catholic” position. Sitting ones butt in the pew of a Catholic Church gives no more right to speak as the Church’s representative than watching a football game entitles one to speak for the NFL.
The Catholic Church does enough to confuse people with its wishy washy unintelligible position on Health Care with out the help of these bogus groups.
The Guttmacher (sp) Institute claims that abortions will go up by 30% under 0bamacare. This was reported this morning by Rick Santorum on Bill Bennett’s show.
This is an interesting window on the RC left, which has insidiously infiltrated the church, including apparently the religious orders. It is very interesting, for religious orders historically have been a model for collectivist political movements. They are themselves rather communistic.
In the 20th Century, the RC Church tended to support fascism over communism, but both are forms of collectivism. The “Common Good” movement promoted in the “Catholics United” website is merely warmed-over fascism-socialism-communism. It has no strong American roots.
As a non-Catholic, I have always admired the courage of many Catholics in standing up for life. But the RC church is infected (just like much of mainstream Protestantism), and it is very weak. It seems to have turned its back on the strong strain of individualism which has roots in Christian doctrine. In the “Common Good” movement, the left-faction tries to realize Christianity in communitarian social-welfarism at the national level. I say that’s fascism, and I say to Hell with it! I don’t care if 50,000 nuns like it: it’s still poison.
I will ask the question again, If we are not a Christian Nation, why does the Obama Administration use Christian guilt to force through legislation ie. "It's for the poor!"??
agreed.
Rosemary Radford Ruthless exposed their position well about 40 years ago. When asked why she stayed in the Church when she embraced neither Catholic faith nor Catholic morals, she replied: “I stay because the Church has the xerox machines and you need the xerox machines in order to win the revolution.”
(Quoted in The Catholic Experience in America, Joseph A. Varacalli, 2006.)
And I strongly suspect that yesterday's stories of 50,000 nuns supporting ObamaCare we're as bogus as this groups tenuous claims to represent “Catholics”.
You are probably right. Feminists are trying to drag nuns into their ranks.
In Nazi days, women would dress as nuns to be photographed in the audience at Nazi rallies, to imply Catholic support. In communist countries, it was not uncommon for secret-police to pretend to be priests, either to imply support for the regime, or to carry out acts designed to hurt to public impression of the churches.
In the North Korean regime, there are fake churches staffed by secret police, and these fooled Billy Graham. The communists also have pretend Buddhist shrines staffed by their men, but it is almost funny: Japanese visitors report that these “Buddhists” seemed to know little of their supposed religion, and had the various statues all in the wrong order in their Potemkin “temple.”
And some nuns are perhaps duped. They are only human, after all.
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