Posted on 04/21/2010 5:38:50 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
Fair enough, but sometimes it's not enough to look at the "surface" of the issue. You need to look at the core of the matter.
While I don't think Government has the right to prohibit voluntary prayer in any locale or circumstances, I'm certainly opposed to Government-sponsored prayer.
I don't want Government writing Prayers for my kids. They'll just screw it up.
And I don't think that there should be sponsored Prayer in the Public Schools, because I don't think that there should BE any Public Schools. They are immoral organizations, founded upon Theft, and all Christians should support their total abolition. We should not attempt to Sanctify that which is by nature Satanic.
Arguing about Prayer in Public Schools is as stupid as arguing about Prayer in a Den of Thieves. Instead of Praying about it, howzabout we just stop robbing people?
I can see that Grayson is a bad egg, and that Paul is the better candidate between the two. I want to see how consistant and reliable Paul would be once he’s in Congress and actually voting. The question for me is “Is he more conservative than libertarian?”
When I look at his endorsements and the polls of the Kentucky voters, then it looks to me that Governor Palin knew what she was doing.
I don’t see Public Schools as necessarily satanic, although it’s possible that they can be used for evil.
I agree that the government shouldn’t be in the prayer writing business. Furthermore, schools seem to do just fine when left alone to come up with their own, and in designating occasions for prayer. I’m just asking if Rand Paul thinks that schools should be free to do this, and it looks like he does. I can’t complain about his statement.
Do you believe that Theft is Satanic?
Thanks - and I will keep this in mind as things progress.
There are various levels of theft, as there are concerning various sins.
For example: taxing citizens for public school support is not in the same league as taxing seniors and then denying them healthcare.
Fair enough, but Sin is still Sin. The presence of allegedly worse Sins, doesn't make any one Sin into something moral and good.
There may be worse forms of Theft; but, in principle -- arguing whether or not we want to have sponsored Prayer in Public Schools, is like arguing about whether or not we want to have sponsored Prayer in Abortion Clinics.
There shouldn't be sponsored Prayer in Public Schools, or Abortion Clinics. Both are FOUNDED upon Violations of the Ten Commandments (the 8th and 6th Commandments, respectively). Both are Satanic and both should be abolished, not "sanctified".
All sin is an offense and disobedience against God. There is no such thing as a "good sin." However, each sin has a greater or lesser "offense value." If I steal a quarter from you, it doesn't have the same "offense value" as the sin of abortion.
Public schools in and of themselves are in no way, shape or form the moral equivalents of abortuaries.
How about the internet? One can't say that the internet is satanic because it can give access to satanic things. There are also good and even holy things to be accessed on the net.
In other words, there are things that are intrinsically evil, e.g., satanic or pornographic websites and abortuaries, and things that can be used for good or misused for bad, e.g., the internet or public schools.
Theft may not have the same "offense value" as Murder, but they're both on the Big Ten.
We dare not lose our sense of Moral Horror at the idea that Stealing from the citizenry to support compulsory Government Schools, is somehow NOT a grave crime against God.
How about the internet? One can't say that the internet is satanic because it can give access to satanic things. There are also good and even holy things to be accessed on the net.
All sought out voluntarily, without Government compulsion, and without being funded by Theft.
I'm not forced to subsidize it, as I am the Government Schools.
In other words, there are things that are intrinsically evil, e.g., satanic or pornographic websites and abortuaries, and things that can be used for good or misused for bad, e.g., the internet or public schools.
No. This is still incorrect.
Public Schools are intrinsically evil, because they are funded by Theft. Period.
Their very existence violates and profanes the Eighth Commandment.
There is a clear dividing line shaping up on FR between those who want to use Federal Government power toward their own goals, and those who want to reduce that power across the board.
Count me firmly in the second camp. It would be every bit as wrong for the Fed Gov to -mandate- school prayer as to -forbid- it.
Fatal error there son.
I just hope Sarah isn't supporting a Surrender Monkey like Rand Paul's father is.
Yes, this has got to be one of THE most misleading headlines ever. This is bad even for a goofy left wing site like Politico. Sheeesh!
And the greatest thefts of all are the hearts and minds of our children. The most common and iterative lesson K-12? is FREE LUNCH. Government Schools are socialist factories turning out socialists. They have been fantastically successful.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
The title says, Sarah cuts spot
Sarah did not cut a spot but the few second spot she speaks comes from an interview in general on FOX 7 Feb. 2010
She even states there are issues “we” disagree which isn’t
shown.
Sarah made her complimentary remarks about Rand back in February. I was giving Rand the benefit of the doubt at the time as well, hoping perhaps he wasn't as looney as his dad.
Since then, Rand has exposed his true self and it looks like he's just like the old man, even to the point of being solidly in the tank for Code Pinkos like Adam Kokesh.
I could be wrong, but I don't believe Gov. Palin has said anything about Rand since the remarks in February.
Ah...selective editing on the Paul campaign's part. What a surprise.
I wonder what kind of whiiiiine the Paulbots are going to want with their crow? ;-)
Yeah, the CNN headline said something like “Palin Stars in Paul Campaign ads”. I’d take issue with that as well, but at least it’s not as bad as the Politico headline. The politico headline makes it sound like these ads were some recent undertaking by Palin, which they definitely aren’t!
Politico’s writers are mostly Democrats and a few Romney people
Thus the attempt to smear Sarah Palin.
Sorry I didn’t see your post sooner.
Well, if this issue is seen in the way you’re saying, then ALL government is intrinsically evil because it is funded by theft.
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