Susan G. Komen and Planned Parenthood: Pro-Life People Should be Warned

Life News ^ | 5/24/10 | Hannah Carter

[metmom]

Thanks. You put that better than I did.

[metmom]

What’s disingenuous is to act as if PP is the only place that women are going to go for breast cancer screening and that the Komen Foundation doesn’t have any alternatives for breast cancer screening.

There are tons of other options.

[metmom]

Komen sees a legitimate need for their services but people like you would make that impossible if you could have your way.

The Komen Foundation can donate directly to breast cancer screening centers that are not connected to PP but are rather connected to local hospitals. What with all the publicity out there about breast cancer, women can go for screening all on their own. They don't need to be babied or coddled as if they can't think for themselves, or take action by themselves.

[metmom]

Another thread another breast cancer cheerleader flushed out.

Nope, I'm anti-abortion. Abortion increases the risk of breast cancer.

I notice that you never answered the questions about your connection to the Komen Foundation or your position on abortion.

We can take those as a yes, and a yes.

Anyone who is pro-abortion is pro-breast cancer.

[Eagle Eye]

They don't need to be babied or coddled as if they can't think for themselves, or take action by themselves.

LOL so much for compassion. Let them eat cake, too, while they're at it?

Yeah, if they're so stupid as to get knocked up they don't deserve to have any other screening or medical advice, do they?

Screw'em, right? After all, someone else already did.

[Eagle Eye]

We can take those as a yes, and a yes.

Ass-umtions.

Wow...why discuss the issue when you can make attacks on the messenger?

Y'all got the Clinton Method/Chicago Way down pat!

[verga]

Komen says one thing and you say their statements are false yet you offer no proof of your theories.

I noticed taht you have yet to address my point from post #21 about PP killing children. How do you and komen rationalize giveing money to a group whose main business is KILLING children

BTW I did mention a time or two that PP KILLS children, because I would hate you to miss the main point which is that PP KILLS children?

YOU dod think that killing children is a bad thing right?

[Eagle Eye]

Do you also hate Salvation Army because they feed and shelter some addicts who's addictions help fuel the illegal drug trade and the violence that comes with it?

Does donating to the Salvation Army make one pro drug addiction or pro drug death?

[verga]

Y'all got the Clinton Method/Chicago Way down pat!

That would be you that has the Chicago way down pat, lie, dodge, and ignore. You have been asked three times by me and at least twice by metmom, about PP killing children, and you are tone attacking the messenger.

Do you support abortion, Yes or no?

How do you rationalize supporting Komen that would rather screen for BC than prevent it.

How do you rationalize Komen giving money to a group that makes the majority of its money from KILLING children?

[Eagle Eye]

I don’t owe you or anyone any explanation so stuff it.

I’m pointing out that the claims of this poster are fully rebutted by the published statements of the Komen Foundation.

My position on abortion is really irrelevant to the matter and your aspersions on me and my motives shed more light on your character than they ever could on mine.

No evidence yet to debunk Komen’s claims. And somehow I’m the bad guy here?

I think Godwin’s Law applies, or will soon.

[verga]

We’ll put this one as a win for me and seeing as you refuse to answer a direct question, and we will double the points since youa re the one that brought up Goddwin’s law, you must be the one considering it.
<>P>And seeing as you made the “stuff it” comment I will bet that you also voted for your buddy the equally thin skinned Obozo

[Eagle Eye]

That would be you that has the Chicago way down pat, lie, dodge, and ignore.

LOL...oky doky!

Tossing a tantrum because I don't bend over for you?

Are Komen's published statements lies or not? And if you say they are, what is your evidence?

Just for giggles, how would you deal with a DU'er who insisted the Jim Robinson misused FR donations and would remain insistent on that regardless of all the facts and published statements?

That DU'er has his mind made up and no amount of published statements, facts, or such will change his mind.

There's your mirror.

[Eagle Eye]

LOL...I hope you don’t plan to make money with your deductive reasoning, intuition, judgments, or ability to place wagers.

[metmom]

Wow...why discuss the issue when you can make attacks on the messenger?

You tell us since you're so proficient at it.

[metmom]

EE is also ignoring the fact that the Komen foundation is not interested in PREVENTING breast cancer. Instead, they deliberately donate to an organization that actually CONTRIBUTES to the increase in breast cancer through both prescribing the pill and performing abortions. Talk about being a breast cancer cheerleader. How hypocritical of the Komen Foundation. It makes you wonder just what their vested interest is and what the payback is from PP.

Nor has he addressed the issue that PP is by far NOT the only place that women can go for breast cancer screening. There are local hospitals available and breast cancer screening clinics which ONLY screen for breast cancer, which, BTW, are more numerous than the number of PP clinics in most communities. Komen could donate to them easily enough and make breast cancer screening even more widely available than by using PP.

Oh, and did anyone mention to EE that PP kills babies?

[metmom]

LOL so much for compassion. Let them eat cake, too, while they're at it? Yeah, if they're so stupid as to get knocked up they don't deserve to have any other screening or medical advice, do they?

They manage to get to PP all on their own, don't they? Or does someone from PP come knocking at their door and hold their hand and escort them to the local slaughterhouse PP clinic?

[Coleus]

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Breast Cancer Walkers Uninformed about Abortion Link, Komen Foundation gives to Planned Parenthood

 

The single most avoidable risk factor for breast cancer is... ...elective abortion.

[SuziQ]

I haven't given money to the March of Dimes for over 30 years, since I learned that they push amniocentesis as a means of discovering birth defects. Since many of the women whose babies 'show' birth defects end up aborting them, I always consider amnios for these reasons a 'search and destroy' mission. So I don't give MOD my money.

Same with SGK. If the money is going to Planned Parenthood for 'cancer screening', that just means that frees up other money that would have been for cancer screening for their abortion business, which is the more lucrative part of their operation, anyway. Also,I figure with all the money SGK spends on advertising, not that much is going to actual research anyway.

[SuziQ]

Mammograms aren't started until a woman is 40, and women over 40 ARE NOT typically going to Planned Parenthood.

Good point!

[wagglebee]

The fact that you are crusading to cut funds from breast cancer screening outreach programs make you pro breast cancer.

Your asinine statements abound on this thread, but for the sake of simplicity, I will cover them here.

How, and please be specific, is anyone trying to cut funding for breast cancer screening?

Are you under the impression that Planned Parenthood is the ONLY organization that the Komen Foundation can give money to?

Can you even explain why Planned Parenthood is the BEST organization for Komen to give money to? As I have repeatedly pointed out (a point that you have IGNORED), the main expense of breast cancer screening is for mammograms. Mammograms ARE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR WOMEN UNDER 40 and simple logic should indicate that the vast majority of woman going to Planned Parenthood are WELL UNDER 40. So, I think it is reasonable to say that the Komen Foundation is harming women by not appropriating funds where they will do the most good. There are plenty of clinics that DO treat women over the age of 40, why not send money there?

Another FACT that you have systematically IGNORED is that the two main facets of Planned Parenthood's business (abortion and birth control pills) both INCREASE the risk of breast cancer. Komen is HARMING WOMEN by failing to address this (in fact they deny it). Is Komen crusading to end breast cancer or are they just raising money to screen for it.

Additionally, and this is probably either out of ignorance or obstinacy, you fail to grasp the reality that ANY MONEY Planned Parenthood receives helps them cover overhead and allows them to keep the cost of abortions down.

Breast cancer kills about 40,000 Americans a year, abortion kills about 25,000 Americans a WEEK. Everyone hopes that one day soon all of the breast cancer deaths can be prevented, all of the abortion deaths can be prevented RIGHT NOW.

Several times on this thread you have stated that abortion clinic bombers probably don't consider people like me pro-life enough. But, yet again, you are wrong. They don't consider me anti-abortion enough. There is a difference between people who are pro-life and people who are simply anti-abortion. The pro-life movement DOES NOT believe in killing innocent people, the fringe of the anti-abortion movement has no problem with killing anyone.