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Certifigate : Obama's 2012 run to be non-starter ?
WND ^ | OCTOBER 28, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/27/2011 8:21:30 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Just when the White House probably thought those pesky lawsuits seeking a court determination that Barack Obama fails to meet the Constitution's eligibility requirements for a president were finished, something new has appeared on the horizon.

Or in this case, the court docket.

The Liberty Legal Foundation has filed a pair of lawsuits in state and federal courts that don't ask anything about Obama's birth or for any determination from the court about his eligibility. Or his birth certificate, for that matter.

Instead, they name the national Democratic Party as a defendant, and ask the court to enjoin officials there from certifying that Obama is eligible for the office for the 2012 election.

"This complaint does not request or require this court to find that President Obama is not qualified to hold the office of president of the United States. Instead, this complaint is directed toward defining the term 'natural-born citizen' under the Constitution of the United States, and toward negligence or intentional misrepresentations of the Democratic Party.

"This complaint requests this court to affirm the Supreme Court's definition of 'natural-born citizen' as 'all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens.'"

That definition comes from the U.S. Supreme Court's opinion in Minor v. Happersett from 1875.

"This complaint does not request any injunction against any state or federal government official. Instead this complaint asserts that the private entity, Defendant Democratic Party, intends to act negligently or fraudulently in a manner that will cause irreparable harm to the plaintiffs, to the states, and to the citizens of the United States."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; thistimeforsure
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1 posted on 10/27/2011 8:21:31 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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“Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive”

Sir Walter Scott 1771-1832


2 posted on 10/27/2011 8:26:45 PM PDT by One Name
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Well this could be interesting.


3 posted on 10/27/2011 8:27:35 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: RobinMasters
MINOR v. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S. 162 (1874)
4 posted on 10/27/2011 8:28:00 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: RobinMasters

The only rule the rats accept is: There are no rules (and even if there were they wouldn’t follow them anyway — case in point...that pesky Constitution).


5 posted on 10/27/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: RobinMasters
MINOR v. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S. 162 (1874) 88 U.S. 162 (Wall.)

Pertinent passage

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.

At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.

These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [88 U.S. 162, 168] parents.

As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

The words 'all children' are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as 'all persons,' and if females are included in the last they must be in the first.

That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.

The purpose of the suite was to suggest that women were granted suffrage under the 14th amendment. The court found that they did not.

6 posted on 10/27/2011 8:40:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: RobinMasters

This sounds brilliant to me. But I’m not a lawyer or a judge.


7 posted on 10/27/2011 8:54:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (9-9-9 ? Just say No! No! No!)
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To: RobinMasters

....and Lucy will pull the football away just before the kick, and Charlie Brown will fall flat on his ass once again.


8 posted on 10/27/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: One Name
“Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive” Sir Walter Scott 1771-1832

"The plot thickens."
Daffy Duck 1954 - .

9 posted on 10/27/2011 8:57:54 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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This is exactly what has needed to happen for a long while. Who cares about everything else, the fact is he is NOT a natural born citizen.

If you were taking a test and the question was asked “Can a person who’s mother was an American citizen, and the father was a foriegner be the POTUS?” and you answered yes, you would get that question marked WRONG.

Maybe our court system and elected officials should try going back to jr high government class.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 8:58:25 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

In my reading of this, this case specifically does NOT answer this question. They avoided solving the problem. This surprises me since this is the case everyone seems to cite (and this is the first time I've actually read it). I don't see how this is in any way helpful.

11 posted on 10/27/2011 9:03:41 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: SERKIT

Charlie Brown has to try because apparently Lucy is the only one with a football.


12 posted on 10/27/2011 9:05:05 PM PDT by Crucial
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13 posted on 10/27/2011 9:07:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: RobinMasters

It’s about time.

And nanny signed those those certs.

she is gonna be pi*sed.


14 posted on 10/27/2011 9:08:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: RobinMasters

Thank you for this post.

The probability of Obama being re-elected are better that 50 %, unless a major lawsuit, Impeachment proceedings, or recall petition can be brought to bear on Obama before June, 2012.

Our sissy RINO Congressmen and women refuse to stop Dictator Obama, so actions such as this are our primary hope of America having a chance to heal from the savage abominations of Obamanation.


15 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:19 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: matthew fuller

Obama will finally have to admit that his father is Frank Marshall Davis. Or Malcolm X. Problem solved.


16 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:40 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: brytlea
Read the whole case and understand it.

There is class A and B. A is NBC. B is born of foreign citizens, and there is doubt they are even CITIZENS, let alone Natural born citizens.

The judges decide Virginia Minor is an NBC, so she is a citizen.

17 posted on 10/27/2011 9:12:43 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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BTW, please put me on your PING list.


18 posted on 10/27/2011 9:12:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Sicvee

“Obama will finally have to admit that his father is Frank Marshall Davis. Or Malcolm X. Problem solved.”

You mean he has to admit that he lied and committed fraud???


19 posted on 10/27/2011 9:20:10 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Sicvee

The way that I understand this lawsuit, it is ONLY against the Demmacrat party, with Obama being mentioned, but NOT being sued. Therefore, he really has no say in the proceedings. That is why it is so brilliant.


20 posted on 10/27/2011 9:28:10 PM PDT by matthew fuller (9-9-9 ? Just say No! No! No!)
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