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Certifigate : Obama's 2012 run to be non-starter ?
WND ^ | OCTOBER 28, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/27/2011 8:21:30 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: RobinMasters

WND? Call me a cynic, but they are about as reliable as The Globe. I’ll believe it when I see it...


21 posted on 10/27/2011 9:35:59 PM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (On the Cain Train to railroad Mitt.)
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To: RobinMasters

Ping, please.
Thank you.


22 posted on 10/27/2011 9:40:23 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: RobinMasters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s3SNHIH0bs

Papa was a Rollin Stone


23 posted on 10/27/2011 9:55:04 PM PDT by woofie
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To: brytlea

88 U.S. 162
Minor v. Happersett
Argued: February 9, 1875 -— Decided: March 29, 1875

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html

(excerpt from the Opinion of the Court)

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words “all children” are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as “all persons,” and if females are included in the last they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.”


24 posted on 10/27/2011 10:37:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: phockthis

If he “admits” that it will not change what the records show as his father. BHO, Sr.

And no, there is no valid COLB that has been released yet. What we were presented with is conjured, but not a real COLB. (ie Forgery)


25 posted on 10/27/2011 10:40:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Pontiac

Perhaps I miss what people say but it seems to me that the quotes of Minor v. Happersett also says the NBC has to be born in the country of the parent’s citizenship. It is important that there are these requirements together.


26 posted on 10/27/2011 10:55:51 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2
Under the power to adopt a uniform system of naturalization Congress, as early as 1790, provided 'that any alien, being a free white person,' might be admitted as a citizen of the United States, and that the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under twenty-one years of age at the time of such naturalization, should also be considered citizens of the United States, and that the children of citizens of the United States that might be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, should be considered as natural-born citizens. 8

These provisions thus enacted have, in substance, been retained in all the naturalization laws adopted since. In 1855, however, the last provision was somewhat extended, and all persons theretofore born or thereafter to be born out of the limits of the jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were, or should be at the time of their birth, citizens of the United States, were declared to be citizens also.9


27 posted on 10/27/2011 11:17:26 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: noinfringers2

Parents, not parent’s, as in both.


28 posted on 10/27/2011 11:21:04 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: Graewoulf

“The probability of Obama being re-elected are better that 50 %, unless a major lawsuit, Impeachment proceedings, or recall petition can be brought to bear on Obama before June, 2012.

zero will fall on his sword and be given the title of Secretary-General of the UN so he can further the goals of his Muslim brothers.... just in time for Hillary! to step in and save the day.


29 posted on 10/27/2011 11:27:24 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Parents, not parent’s, as in both.

See in post 26 that a child born out side of the jurisdiction of the United States whose Father was a US citizen would be considered a US citizen.

But this of course would disqualify Obama.

30 posted on 10/27/2011 11:33:47 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: RobinMasters

AMEN. Welcome to the light beyond the birth certificate!! :)


31 posted on 10/27/2011 11:41:28 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Rudder

SHHHhhhhhhh... i’m hunting rabbits. Be werry werry quiet.


32 posted on 10/27/2011 11:44:19 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: RobinMasters; All
Certainly, if the courts can consider any question settled, this is one. For nearly ninety years the people have acted upon the idea that the Constitution, when it conferred citizenship, did not necessarily confer the right of suffrage. If uniform practice long continued can settle the construction of so important an instrument as the Constitution of the United States confessedly is, most certainly it has been done here. Our province is to decide what the law is, not to declare what it should be.

If only the Supreme Courts had been so wise as this since the turn of the 20th Century.

These men were deciding if the 14th amendment could give women the right to vote. They knew that the 14th did not expressly do that so they had to look elsewhere in the laws and precedents in courts case law. They did not find anywhere in US law where women were given the PRIVILEGE to vote.

They even found where New Jersey had taken the privilege of voting from women. So the court decided that the Law by long standing in US was universally that women although citizens did not have the privilege to vote.

The court did not see themselves as having the power to make the law be what they wanted it to be.

This is judicial restraint. Savor it for it is a rare treat not often encountered today.

33 posted on 10/28/2011 12:10:15 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Graewoulf
The probability of Obama being re-elected are better that 50 %

What are you smoking. I need some for Friday night. He's got at best a 10% chance, and that's the level of cheating they can accomplish in selected states.

34 posted on 10/28/2011 2:32:13 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: RobinMasters

Let me guess at the court’s eventual ruling. Hmm, let’s see. Ah, yes. Good old, “No standing.”


35 posted on 10/28/2011 2:46:54 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Reddy
"zero will fall on his sword and be given the title of Secretary-General of the UN so he can further the goals of his Muslim brothers.... just in time for Hillary! to step in and save the day."

Me thinks you may be more right than wrong!

However, that said, what happens to every bit of legislation, regulation, etc. that was signed by OBozo while he was wrongfully occupying the 'People's House'?!?

36 posted on 10/28/2011 2:57:33 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Go Gordon
"He's got at best a 10% chance..."

Oh I do wish you right BUT...with HIS media, OUR incompetents running on the GOP ticket, and HIS network of election bandits, I'm not so sure about the 2012 outcome.

37 posted on 10/28/2011 3:02:06 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: RobinMasters

Instead, they name the national Democratic Party as a defendant, and ask the court to enjoin officials there from certifying that Obama is eligible for the office for the 2012 election.

PELOSI! I love it


38 posted on 10/28/2011 3:40:19 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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Oh I do wish you right BUT...with HIS media, OUR incompetents running on the GOP ticket, and HIS network of election bandits, I'm not so sure about the 2012 outcome.

Okay, here's a test. Using the 2010 election results as a benchmark, are there going to be more people or less people likely to vote for Democrats/Obama in 2012?

39 posted on 10/28/2011 5:36:48 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: FightforFreedomCA
I agree with you about WND however, Liberty Legal Foundation did file. I received notification from them yesterday advising they had done so. I then received another e-mail from them informing that after sending out their notice, their website had been hacked and they were having to use their old site. Flack/target.
40 posted on 10/28/2011 5:45:14 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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