Posted on 01/15/2014 7:21:15 PM PST by SkyPilot
Unless they think nobody is watching.
In his #310 GL also said “I have seen nothing from the GOP, except Ted Cruz, worth voting for.” and yet you seem to have chosen to ignore that statement and did not include it in your #312.
Can it be that since Ted Cruz is not St Willard, he doesn’t count as a worthy candidate to you?
Ted is a Conservative while Willard has been a liberal his whole adult life. Why do you choose to overlook the evil intentions that spawned Willard’s current political stand?
Willard is not a liberal by accident; he has deliberately walked down a damnable path of pro-abortion, same sex marriage and hatred for all things decent and American because that is who he is, not who he is rumored to be.
Conservatives in these threads have reported for years with proof about his lifelong activities for abortion-on-demand and his introducing same sex marriage to the state of Massachusetts when he was governor there.
So it cannot be that he has the character and experience and leadership qualities to be president of the United States, while Ted Cruz is lacking in these necessary qualities.
No, there is something else which causes you to promote a man so repulsive and unacceptable to Americans who love their country, and I submit that I do not feel it is done in ignorance.
Senator Ted Cruz is many times the man and patriot that Willard Mitt Romney is, and while Willard does not deserve to be the leader of our country and the free world, Ted has demonstrated integrity and a love for this country and a willingness to sacrifice his life to do her good.
Only someone who does not care for the people of the United States would continue to aid Willard in his senseless and reckless quest to ruin the greatness that is still America; a quest which will once again end in failure, but could once again benefit the Democrats while destroying the Conservatives.
Paul Ryan = Quisling
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I raised my right hand in 1983, a time when military service was honored. I’m a life long Republican. Today I’ve decided to switch my voter registration to independent. Disgusted with Republicrats.
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I remember the movie “Braveheart” and the scene in which William Wallace comes face to face with the betrayal of Robert the Bruce. I realize it’s just fiction, but that betrayal in the midst of battle shook Wallace. He thought Bruce to be a friend.
Those are the worst betrayals.
The GOP has turned against the military, and they have refused to listen.
All for a measly 30 pieces of silver.
I don't understand that part. If it was paid in advance it cant be cut.
“If it was paid in advance it cant be cut.”
It was paid in advance to a trust fund administered in part by former military officers. The trust fund operates under the government, and each year’s contribution made by the DoD is based on predicted future need. It is in the black.
By cutting the benefits, the trust fund becomes overfunded, and Congress can remove the “excess money” from it to pay for current operations.
This started in 1984. Prior to 1984, retirement was paid out of the general operating budget. Since I joined in 83, that year’s worth of my retirement comes from current operations. The remainder of my 26 years in was paid into the trust fund by the Pentagon during my time in the military...so roughly 96% of my retirement costs were paid by taxpayers during my time in the military.
Interesting. Trust funds are a scam by nature
One of my BIG pet peeves is the SS trust fund scam, and I could like others here claim that it is MY money.
I created this video on it before xtranormal close down.
A Liberal Democrat explains the why the Social Security Trust Fund is safe (vid debate)
I loved that site and I would have paid more to keep it alive.
It is so evident that you don't understand the issues.
Let's say you get hired to paint some guy's house for a thousand bucks. You paint the house and THEN he says, "Sorry, but I'm only giving you 800."
Same with the vets, only going to war is a bit different than painting a house. They were promised certain compensation for a certain level of compensation. They did the wars, they did the deployments, they kept the young from doing too many stupid things and getting killed more than they did, they did the planning, they did the staging, and they did the operations themselves. They took the heat and they took the risk.
And then their government reneged on the agreed upon payment. They stole about 600 million a year for the next 10 years from what they promised vets.
This is not the same as talking away someone's ObamaPhone, someone who hadn't already paid for the phone. This isn't the same as taking away the earned income credit for illegal aliens, aliens who hadn't already paid for it. This isn't the same as taking away ANY Freebie given to anyone throughout the entire budget. This is taking away something that a personal ALREADY performed the work to earn. This is reneging on an agreement after the fact.
And our military has no union. They are forbidden by law from unionizing. So, they didn't do some union game to get great pay by voting in union preferred politicians. They have no union.
And they must not be getting that much for what they do, because it's harder than heck to get people to sign up. And the government is taking away even that.
So, our leaders have betrayed our military. Paul Ryan, GOP-E, has led the charge.
“Senator Ted Cruz is many times the man and patriot that Willard Mitt Romney is, and while Willard does not deserve to be the leader of our country and the free world, Ted has demonstrated integrity and a love for this country and a willingness to sacrifice his life to do her good.”
What in heaven’s name are you babbling about? The last election is over, and the Dems won, not Mitt Romney, so any of your loathing of Mitt and things Mormon is now a moot point. As to Ted Cruz, why are you doing a compare and contrast with Mitt when that has nothing to do with what the conversation has been between myself and others at all on this thread? I admire Ted Cruz, for what it’s worth. He doesn’t have a linguine spine like some others. Enough said. But I am not going to participate in a discussion on the virtues or lack thereof of Mitt Romney when what I have been discussing with others here is of the utmost importance to the well being of this country. So you will have to take your particular fixation elsewhere. Don’t lay it on my doorstep please.
“But, while some individual members may be ideological, the Republican party isn’t ideological, at all. There is no over-arching “idea” behind their drive for office — aside from re-election. There is no element of the party’s platform that they would not walk away from, rather than defend, if they detected a political cost to doing so.”
Then you can walk away from the Pub Party and guarantee that the Dems will be in the majority both in Congress and in the President’s office for years to come. Our country will be destroyed. Let that sit on your conscience. I won’t have it sitting on mine.
Not nearly the same.
In the other case the customer would sign a contract and he would have to pay it himself or get sued in court.
Retired military have no contract entitling them personally to taxpayers money anymore than I have one entitling me to social security and medicare just because they took my money for it in special taxes.
When xtranormal was alive I created this video on this scam.
A Liberal Democrat explains the why the Social Security Trust Fund is safe
Show me, please, where I even suggested that.
You sound as if the Republican party is beyond reproach. It is not.
Pointing out that the Republican party establishment is devoid of any ideology -- much less, conservative ideology -- is pointing out a bare fact. And it does not correspond to supporting the Democrat party in any way.
Your position, however, seems to be that of blind support of the GOP-e against its conservative base. Do you honestly believe that the party's current leadership is leading in the right direction -- with amnesty, compliant funding of Obamacare and a supine policy of non-confrontation?
“Trust funds are a scam by nature”
No, they are not. Try doing with a private trust fund what Congress is doing, and find out what happens.
“Your position, however, seems to be that of blind support of the GOP-e against its conservative base. Do you honestly believe that the party’s current leadership is leading in the right direction — with amnesty, compliant funding of Obamacare and a supine policy of non-confrontation?”
There is a lot wrong with certain Pubs within the Party. But not the Party as a whole. You seem to forget that 65 members of the House are Tea Partiers. Many others are good conservatives. There are some rotten apples in the barrel, some of whom are high profile (McCain/Graham/etc.) come to mind. But we cannot do much at all as we only have a majority in one House of Congress, no Senate, and no Presidency. The place to change the Pub Party in a more conservative direction is in the primaries. I will vote for Republicans nevertheless in all elections, as virtually almost any Pub will be better than any Dem. And if Dems continue to win elections, our country is doomed. That’s about as clear as I can be here.
My remarks were clearly -- and solely -- directed at the party leadership and their followers. Not at its TEA party component nor at its base.
I thought that was evident.
Do you find no fault with the party leadership?
Sorry, sickoflibs, you have not addressed why Veterans should have their EARNED compensation taken away from them in the middle of the deal.
If you want to change the deal for newcomers, and they agree to it, then that’s different.
We are not talking about someone receiving a gift they have not earned. We are talking about a deal that was made. You do X and we’ll pay Y. Retirees did do their X, and now the government is reneging.
How does that compare with someone on earned income credit to illegals, welfare, food stamps, ssi, phony disability, obamaphones, abortion funding through planned parenthood, endowment for the arts, etc., etc.
How can you possibly justify taking the cash of those who’ve earned it, when I’ve listed hundreds of billions going to those who haven’t.
It isn’t a matter of “whose ox is gored”. It’s a matter of who earned their pay and who is being given (in many cases) an undeserved gift, and for all the others an unearned gift.
I will give money to ANY Ryan opponent. It’s that simple. I want him gone. Period. Preferably in a primary. Other than that, if Hillary runs for his seat, then she gets money from me.
I’d rather have a known enemy than a traitor...at least I know to expect treachery with a known enemy.
You have the cash transfer direction backwards.
Like social security and medicare that money gets taken from taxpayers now or in future via national debt, to pay the retired.
This budget doesn't take any money from them anymore than cutting social security or medicare for todays retired would be taking $$$ from them.
You post like taxpayers not yet earned $$$ is manna from heaven to you.
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