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The U.S. Navy is risking everything on a fatally flawed technology
medium.com/war-is-boring/ ^ | May 29, 2015 | David W. Wise

Posted on 05/30/2015 7:52:30 AM PDT by ckilmer

Edited on 05/30/2015 9:54:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 05/30/2015 7:52:30 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer; cripplecreek; MeganC; Jet Jaguar
History Repeats itself, for anyone who doubts this artcile, here is an excellent Segment in the Documentary Battleship

I encourage everyone to watch the whole link.

https://youtu.be/aoHzFfW0jhY?t=4m40s

We have made it to where our Navy (or Air Force) can't incur any loses without it severely damaging us.

2 posted on 05/30/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: ckilmer

I read this entire article a few days ago. I commented about my concern of the vulnerability of aircraft carriers. But those with far more knowledge than me told me they were quite capable and well protected. I can’t imagine the United States is sitting back and not on the cutting edge of all kinds of military technology


3 posted on 05/30/2015 8:01:37 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: ckilmer

I’m finding it very interesting that so much effort is being put out to deride Naval Airpower and Aircraft Carriers.

It makes me suspicious to say the least.


4 posted on 05/30/2015 8:04:07 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: dp0622
I can’t imagine the United States is sitting back and not on the cutting edge of all kinds of military technology

I can.

5 posted on 05/30/2015 8:19:16 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: ckilmer

Later


6 posted on 05/30/2015 8:19:43 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: The Working Man

A Hillary Clinton outfit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_a_New_American_Security


7 posted on 05/30/2015 8:27:58 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: ckilmer
Supercavitating torpedoes  —  such as the Russian Shkval  —  already travel at 200 knots per hour...

It'd be more credible if it got basic information, like units of speed, correct.

8 posted on 05/30/2015 8:30:00 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: ckilmer

2nd article in as many days or so, essentially claiming the same thing...

It’s a tad curious...


9 posted on 05/30/2015 8:30:41 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ckilmer

Thread from a few days ago for comments:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3294256/posts

The real basis of this essay is that the welfare state needs the military’s budget.
There are a few other (good) points thrown in.


10 posted on 05/30/2015 8:33:38 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: The Working Man
As well you should be: Wise doesn't talk about China's new aircraft carriers as part of their ambitions and the newer stuff the Russians are developing.

Power projection is always risky and I am sure that the Navy's working full time to develop defensive technologies to protect carrier battle groups.

My suspicion is Mr. Wise is connected to the Air Force. Those boys never give up trying to squeeze their competitors out of the air business/take their part of the budget.

11 posted on 05/30/2015 8:33:47 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: mrsmith
the welfare state needs the military’s budget.

That has always been the case. That's how we wound up defending socialist Europe.

12 posted on 05/30/2015 8:36:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

In our case the guns/butter debate will be held in a media that gets a cut from spending on the welfare state and gets nothing from spending on the military.
“A carrier group never fed a child”- and a percentage of a carrier group’s cost never went to the media.


13 posted on 05/30/2015 8:44:58 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Actually, 200 knots per hour is quite slow. Especially, since the running time is less than ten minutes.


14 posted on 05/30/2015 8:55:23 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: dp0622

“I can’t imagine the United States is sitting back and not on the cutting edge of all kinds of military technology.”

The United States was also at the cutting edge of military technology when Pearl Harbor happened. What made it possible was complacency, underestimating the enemy, and outright stupidity.

The fact is that our carriers are, and have been for a long time, quite vulnerable to first-tier opponents.


15 posted on 05/30/2015 9:06:06 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: ckilmer
Of course, the reason that no one had yet sunk a battleship from the air  —  in combat  —  was that no one had yet tried.

WRONG. On both points. At the Battle of Taranto, in November of 1940, the British sunk an Italian battleship and damaged two more - from the air with slow Swordfish biplanes.

16 posted on 05/30/2015 9:08:13 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Like I said in another thread, with that trouble in the China sea, I am concerned. I always assumed China was no match for us on the seas.


17 posted on 05/30/2015 9:11:10 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Chainmail

$6 billion dollar carrier, bad. $2 billion dollar strategic bomber, good.


18 posted on 05/30/2015 9:22:40 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: reg45

Could that be described as ‘combat’ though? Its not really that hard to torpedo a stationary ship in port. Its a whole other issue to try and do it at sea when it is zig-zagging and your plane is facing anti-aircraft gunners from the ship and its escort at full battle stations.


19 posted on 05/30/2015 9:26:19 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: dp0622

“I always assumed China was no match for us on the seas.”

China is almost to the point where they could take us on regionally, with a reasonable chance of winning, especially politically.

The thing I hear most often on FR is the “China doesn’t have the sea lift”. Yet, they now have by far the world’s largest merchant fleet, MANY times larger than we do.


20 posted on 05/30/2015 9:28:17 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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