Posted on 09/15/2015 5:24:50 PM PDT by lqcincinnatus
Texas already seceded once — in 1861, by popular vote in a statewide election.
But the Texas Nationalist Movement wants a repeat a century and a half later, and thinks the March GOP primary is the place to start.
The Nederland-based Texas independence group is circulating a petition aimed at getting a non-binding vote onto the GOP primary ballot over whether "the state of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation."
Their goal? 75,000 signatures from registered voters by Dec. 1 — more than the 66,894 the Texas Secretary of State's office says the group needs to get the language on the ballot.
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theoretically: existing only in theory; hypothetical
FED/Lincoln fought a WAR, hundreds of Thousands killed to keep this Country together and TEXAS was a side ISSUE, then, less than 20 years in the UNION. SLAVERY was not an ISSUE in TEXAS like it was in Missouri or Kansas.
Lots of Federal property, OIL, NAT GAS, and dang good people here, who would love to throw off these maggots.
“Once TX takes the plunge, my prediction at least a half dozen states will follow suit. Then things start to get interesting.”
Take a look at an electoral map. If a huge state like Texas leaves, so do those electoral votes. Things would become very interesting and probably very tragic in short order.
Ping.
LBJ? The guy who created most of the current mess? Not a good choice.
If it did, I would fly back tomorrow.
Gutiérrez–Magee Expedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guti%C3%A9rrez%E2%80%93Magee_Expedition
As has been pointed out to you innumerable times, Thomas Jefferson, followed by the Representatives of the 13 Colonies, says a state can leave without the consent of the "Union"; That it is a natural right consistent with God's law, to do so.
Relax, he’s on the 50 cent piece!
It is completely consistent with the first, and most supreme law ever passed by the newly created United States.
The Declaration of Independence.
So I guess that means the the USA wasn’t legally allowed to secede from the British Empire, then? Because that’s exactly what we did as a nation through The Declaration of Independence.
Thank you.. was hoping someone else would mention something about him.
Our slow step-child brother, Louisiana would certainly follow, regardless of Jindal or Duke.
Texas would not be, even as a state of mind, without the tremendous sacrifice of Tennesseans!!!!!
I would pack the boots, my guns, lotsa ammo, my beautiful borzoi and be on the road already south to the Red River.
The gold is too heavy. I’d FedEx that.
If Texas seceded, within one month there would be 500k to one million rifleman from the other 49 states ready to fight for liberty.
The federal government would not kill millions to stop them.
That question has been in my mind or a variation of it for a few months for the debate.
It’s an excellent question and really would TEST the candidates.
I’ve been for a PEACEFUL secession movement or split in the USA for some years as I think it would lead to much happier countries. California could secede too and go their own way and I think they would like that too.
Both Texas and California have large economies bigger than most countries.
When a part of a country decides to secede, the “law” doesn’t matter. It’s an act of rebellion. What matters is what the parties to the dispute decide to do about it.
LBJ should be on the 13 cent piece for that Duval County, Box 13 that started his political career.
They’d get some objections from the fags and dikes and communists in Austin. What about the welfare deadbeats in Houston and Ft Worth/Dallas?
The 14th Amendment provides in part:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;"
Most of the people who reside in Texas are citizens of both Texas and the United States. None of their privileges or immunities as citizens of the United States can be abridged by any act or law of Texas.
It would, of course, be impossible to secede from the United States and to replace the government of the United States with a new national government in Texas without violating the protections afforded to United States citizens as United States citizens living in Texas. However, if enough Texans favored the idea, maybe they could convince the rest of the country to amend the Constitution to permit a "secession." That seems unlikely to me, though, because very few Texans want to lose their status as United States citizens.
The question raised by this thread is sort of like the question of whether the rest of the United States could sell Texas to the Chinese or the North Koreans. It might sound like an interesting question, but brain cells shouldn't be wasted on it.
It is an act of rebellion to a country who's laws specifically disallow it, as did the United Kingdom who's laws were based on the "Divine right of Kings" and which required "Perpetual allegiance."
Our laws, however are founded on the natural law principle
that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
It is not "Rebellion" to assert this right. It is "Rebellion" to deny people this right explicitly enumerated in our founding document.
Don’t know where I come down on it either. I was surprised to see that it started in Nederland………very close to where I grew up, in Beaumont. At that time, it was a small town with a very good football team. —but maybe it’s grown a lot since I lived in the areal
Voted most likely in a class of 50 to secede.
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