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1 posted on 09/19/2015 8:30:26 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

The Community Organizer from Chicago has made enough misstatements that one can call him a liar without losing credibility. Being a known liar creates a further problem; i.e. when do we know he is telling the truth?


2 posted on 09/19/2015 8:39:10 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: markomalley

Bump for later


3 posted on 09/19/2015 8:39:57 AM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: markomalley; Lazamataz

Read later.


4 posted on 09/19/2015 8:40:51 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: markomalley

He’s a radical marxist with obvious anti Judaeo-Christian sentiments.


5 posted on 09/19/2015 8:40:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: markomalley
Unless one is shown to be a board-certified telepath, one cannot see into the heart of a person regarding his faith. What one can do is look at the person's words and actions and see if they are consistent with the Christian faith.

A list of Obama's words and actions has been previously posted by Slyfox on Freerepublic. Obama's words and actions are inconsistent with the Christian faith.

6 posted on 09/19/2015 8:44:34 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: markomalley

Proper answer:
“Dial 202-555-1212.”


7 posted on 09/19/2015 8:49:24 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: markomalley

It is an excellent, thoughtful response. Unfortunately, in today’s world candidates have to communicate in short sound bites and character limit tweets to reach the masses.


8 posted on 09/19/2015 8:51:29 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: markomalley; marron; Alamo-Girl; xzins; caww; trisham; YHAOS; hosepipe; entropy12
Question for my fellow FReepers: if a candidate was to respond as above, how would you react?

Very positively.

Certainly I take a very dim view of Gov. Christie's recent remark — evidently intended to disparage The Donald — that Obama's Christianity (or self-identification as a Christian) is "self-evident." ("Nothing to see here, so just move along....")

There is nothing "self-evident" about it at all. Indeed, it seems all the evidence points to the reasonable supposition that he is not.

Plus from his "fruits" (deeds) we find evidence that he is highly sympathetic to the Islamic faith and its causes, and actively defends its claims worldwide; and if he has to sacrifice the national interest in so doing, so be it: "If you want to make an omelette, you've got to break some eggs."

Ergo, to me it seems more likely that Obama is a Muslim than he is a Christian — if we are to judge him by his "fruits."

Excellent article, markomally! Thank you ever so much for posting it.

9 posted on 09/19/2015 8:56:15 AM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind.)
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To: markomalley

The response? “Why ask me?”


10 posted on 09/19/2015 9:02:34 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: markomalley

If a candidate gave that response, I would quit reading after fifteen seconds, just the way I did here.


11 posted on 09/19/2015 9:04:19 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: markomalley

Donald should say: If Obama likes his religion, he can keep his religion.


12 posted on 09/19/2015 9:04:52 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: markomalley

It is not anyone’s responsibility to confirm the religious beliefs (or lack thereof) of a 3rd party. It is an illogical request. You can only confirm your own beliefs.

ILLOGICAL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE IGNORED.

This is also worrying in a Stasi sense ... people being coerced to denounce others to save their own skins. Very dangerous path to be going down.

Since you cannot know the true beliefs of someone other than yourself, you would also be bearing false witness to proclaim the beliefs of another as fact.


14 posted on 09/19/2015 9:22:16 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: markomalley

A name is the most personal of things we have. If he truly in his heart is a Christian he would not call himself with a moslem name. He has had other names before, like “Barry Soetero”, he chose “Barak Hussain Obama” - a very moslem name. I believe he’s a moslem because I believe he believes he’s a moslem.


15 posted on 09/19/2015 9:27:03 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: markomalley

Obama’s words and actions move in opposite directions. His words claims he is but his actions are devilish.


18 posted on 09/19/2015 9:42:02 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: markomalley
A few things to add to this reasonably well thought through response....

It is worthless to respond to this question of whether Obama is a Christian without quoting what the Bible says about who and what a Christian is.

My reading of the Bible tells me that there is only one 'means test' that is mentioned that could be interpreted to provide guidance on whether one is a true Christian or not.....if someone can find an additional one, I’d be very interested in hearing what it is. It’s found in 1 John 3:14 which says “We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. 15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.” Very simply, the one ‘who has passed from death unto life’ is the Christian while the one who ‘abideth in death’ is not. If you are one who loves other born again Christians, then you by definition are one as well…. and we know this because otherwise if you are not a born again Christian, Satan will plant seeds for you to hate Christians, some fiercely, some overtly and some passively but all will hate Christians. Why is this? Whatever is loved by God is hated by Satan. Satan’s jealousy of God which goes back to the beginning of time is as strong as ever…. and that jealousy extends through to those who God claims as His own. A Christian is one who formerly was a slave to Satan…. as an escapee from Satan’s kingdom, Satan has an even stronger hatred for the Christian. Another reason for this hatred is that a Christian is a threat to that kingdom…. James 5:16 says “Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” Satan is well aware that a praying Christian is a powerful individual and as such, Satan will never know from what direction he will be taken a hit. Has Obama demonstrated that he has a love for born again Christians? Here is another take on this from 1 John 4: 20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

Theologically speaking, a Christian is someone who has received the Lord Jesus as Savior (John 1:12), trusts Him alone for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 4:12), has put no trust in his own efforts (Isaiah 64:6) to please God, and repented from his/her sins (Mark 1:15). In Matthew 5, Jesus said this “14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Those who are truly saved cannot be contained any more than a light in the darkness can, or the city set on the hill can be hidden. Would a true Christian saved from the fiery pit of Hell for all eternity take all that joy of being saved and hide it like putting a candle under a bushel hamper? And would they not want all those around them to also be saved from the fiery eternal death? As was asked in the article, "If you were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"

Having said all the above, only God really knows…. 1 Samuel 16: 7 “But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.” God knows the individual better than the individual knows him/herself and there are many Bible verses that speak to this issue. And in the case of who really is a Christian, in many instances there will be doubts as others assess this question but the answer is that only God knows since only he knows what is in the heart. Is there a means that others can use to get an answer to this question? Sure…. Hebrews 4:12 says this…… “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. All one has to do is present scripture to the subject and in watching the responses and reactions, the answer to the question of who is truly a born again Christian and who is not will be crystal clear…. the Bible is that powerful.

27 posted on 09/19/2015 11:02:21 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: markomalley

Obama is a type of the antichrist. He has many of the characteristics. Those with only a little discernment can and do see this. There have been many before him and they exhibited those same traits. But... there is a final fulfillment of who will be THE antichrist. Until and unless he repents, Obama will share their future.


28 posted on 09/19/2015 11:18:42 AM PDT by Lake Living
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Well lets see”

Barry won’t appear if there is a cross anywhere in the room similar to a vampire avoiding sunlight.

Barry’s first year in office blew off the National Prayer Breakfast but threw an Eid al fitar dinner.

Barry wears a ring inscribed with the Shahada. “there is no God but Islam”

Barry surrounds himself with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Barry bows and kisses the ring of the King of Saudi Arabia.

Oh crikes somebody else chime in. :-)


33 posted on 09/19/2015 12:20:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: markomalley
Did you know that We Now Have a Muslim Government? ... John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett,~~is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live. Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma Abedin,~~is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan,~~is a Muslim. Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary,~~ is a Muslim. Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati,~~ is a Muslim. Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America~~ is a Muslim. Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighbor-hood Partnerships, Eboo Patel,~~is a Muslim. And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself,~~ Barack Hussein Obama. It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again….in private? CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution,~~not a Bible. Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy ~~of the Qur'an. Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking over our government. Considering all these appointments, it would explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. The more damage Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! Our nation and our government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It WILL only get worse. Plus John Kerry's son in law is an Iranian muslim.

To President Obama: It was you who told at an Islamic dinner - "I am one of you." It was you who on ABC News referenced - "My Muslim faith." It was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques. It was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict -"I will stand with the Muslims." It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that - "I am a Muslim." It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King. It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism. It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay. It was you who purposefully omitted - "endowed by our Creator" - from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence. It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On The Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'HOLY' Quran. It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America. It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center. It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the WH. It was you who ordered both Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited adjust their decor. It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps. It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security. It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities. It was you who as an Illinois Senator were the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide. It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the WH, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree. It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists. It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist. It is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses. It was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults. It was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas. It was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp. It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help "empower" the British Muslim community. It was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak. It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country. It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan. It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events. It was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.

35 posted on 09/19/2015 1:08:58 PM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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ping


41 posted on 09/20/2015 2:58:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: markomalley
Is Obama a Christian? A proposed response for conservative candidates...

The Book says...

Proverbs 20:11 KJV

Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.


44 posted on 09/21/2015 4:47:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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