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The dissent cuts through the BS and gets it right:

I cannot join in a result that analyzes our statutes to determine that a six-day-old child is not a person...

1 posted on 10/22/2015 7:19:44 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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These Appeals Court Judges should be hung!


2 posted on 10/22/2015 7:22:17 AM PDT by Artcore
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So, even when the mother WANTS the baby, the State can now call it NOT a baby?


3 posted on 10/22/2015 7:27:13 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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The woman lost her baby and has suffered enough for that loss. Putting her on trial was wrong.

Had another vehicle hit her and the baby was killed, that person should be on trial and I would vote to convict.

5 posted on 10/22/2015 7:30:25 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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Physically sickening.

Sick sick people, these judges.


6 posted on 10/22/2015 7:31:28 AM PDT by uncitizen (Trump: Saying what we are all thinking)
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A dangerous extension of “the right to choose” if this stands.


13 posted on 10/22/2015 7:41:28 AM PDT by DBrow
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What about the two adults she killed? If it was being considered her conduct was negligent with regard to the fetus, uh, er.. Not a Person, why isn't she charged with manslaughter in the deaths of the two adults? They must have been conservatives, and again, aren't considered Persons. What a country!
14 posted on 10/22/2015 7:41:58 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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19 posted on 10/22/2015 7:46:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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New York is where Satan goes to vacation.


21 posted on 10/22/2015 7:47:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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Follow that line of “reasoning” to its logical conclusion. A sixty year old progressive is not a person and may be killed in the public interest.


26 posted on 10/22/2015 7:54:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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It is unfortunate such a ruling was forced but those involved in making the decision seem to have been stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Indeed as the majority opinion points out, if the conviction had been allowed to stand, it might encourage future mothers in such a situation to not elect to have a cesarean, even to implement life saving measures for the baby, because she might be charged with manslaughter if the baby dies later.

If she (or any woman) had been in a head on collision with a tree, so no one else died as a result, should she still be tried and convicted of manslaughter? Just because her baby died? And the only reason the baby died outside the womb was because she elected to have a cesarean? So if she didn’t have a cesarean she shouldn’t be charged but if she does she should?

No the way I see it the judge’s decision at least removes any legal threat for pregnant women in car accidents who wish to try to save their baby.

Like I said it’s a rock and a hard place situation. (I’m assuming throughout all this she wasn’t intoxicated or anything like that).


34 posted on 10/22/2015 8:19:58 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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How long before someone who kills a baby goes free while someone who kills a baby animal goes to jail? Wait. we’re already there.


35 posted on 10/22/2015 8:21:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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The imposition of criminal liability ... should be clearly defined by the legislature, not the courts. It should also not be left to the whim of the prosecutor.

Hard to argue against this. It's nice to see that some NY Judges actually recall what each branch's Constitutional duties are.

(Of course, it reads to me like they're hiding behind this correct logic, but I'll appreciate the rare reasoning anyway.)

36 posted on 10/22/2015 8:21:59 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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I wonder how many people are actually reading the article, and not just the headline. The issue is whether the mother can be punished for negligence/recklessness while pregnant, if the child dies after the pregnancy.

She swerved into oncoming traffic and killed 2 other people. The Prosecutor seems to think that she needs more names added to her list of victims, and wants to tinker with the statutes to do it. That takes a lot of time and effort. This Prosecutor is doing it for some reason.

I still agree with the majority decision here, sympathies to the unborn aside. Let the Legislature change the laws, not judges and prosecutors.

39 posted on 10/22/2015 8:29:09 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Don’t you have to stop and pause at a few things: Shouldn’t the NY legislature be the ones to make this a crime? We are tired of rogue prosecutors coming up with theories of liability, whether it involves using Sarbanes-Oxley to prosecute under-sized fish (Yates decision) or using Chemical Weapons laws to go after a jilted lover (Bond). I don’t want courts making up laws, and I don’t want prosecutors creating laws through enforcement strategies.


44 posted on 10/22/2015 8:57:36 AM PDT by drb9
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Here we go again w/ courts/judges reading into that which is not there: deeming the Law didn’t INTEND one way or another.

B.S. What does the Law SAY. Words have meaning and they should have meant EXACTLY what the Law said

Course, now, the lawyers are all in a tizzy for all the $$ coming their way from clients convicted on the basis that the child (in-utero) is a person and had possibly years added to their sentence.


46 posted on 10/22/2015 9:09:10 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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When will it be a person? At 5? Or at 18? Or if it a conservative, never?


49 posted on 10/22/2015 9:19:03 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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The graphic video of a “fully formed fetus… its legs kicking” appears in episode 3 of a multi-part documentary produced by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP). This video shows former tissue procurement specialist Holly O’Donnell describing how she was shown an intact fetus with a beating heart. O’Donnell says of this moment, “I don’t know if that constitutes it’s technically dead, or it’s alive.” O’Donnell was then asked to harvest brain tissue from the same fetus by cutting through its face.

As O’Donnell narrates her gruesome experience, the video shifts to 10 seconds of a fetus in a metal bowl which is still moving. The video is clearly labeled as coming from the Grantham Collection & Center for Bioethical Reform. It is not video of the fetus O’Donnell is describing but was inserted by the producers to illustrate what a living fetus at this gestation would look like.


51 posted on 10/22/2015 9:28:08 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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"The sole issue that we reach on this appeal, however, is whether a woman can be convicted of manslaughter for reckless conduct that she engaged in while pregnant..."

Whether the decision is right or wrong on it's actual issue, the issue isn't about the status of a six day old child.

52 posted on 10/22/2015 9:45:52 AM PDT by mlo
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At the time of the collision, defendant was 34 weeks pregnant. She was taken to a local hospital where, due to signs of fetal distress, she consented to an emergency cesarean section.

Despite the best efforts of hospital personnel, the baby died six days later.

An autopsy confirmed that the cause of death was due to injuries sustained in the accident.... Following deliberations, the jury returned a verdict finding

....a six-day-old child is not a person

58 posted on 10/22/2015 10:57:20 AM PDT by LucyT
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If the six day old child were the sole heir to an estate, would that child be a person for inheritance purposes?

-PJ

63 posted on 10/22/2015 2:40:11 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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