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Monmouth finds Trump's ceiling is moving up to the second floor
Hot Air.com ^ | December 15, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 12/15/2015 9:29:26 AM PST by Kaslin

If The Donald needed a bit of an ego boost heading into tonight’s debate (okay… I choked a bit typing that phrase) he got one from Monmouth last night. Though he was already pretty much crushing the field nationally and in all the states except possibly Iowa, the pollsters recorded Trump breaking the 40% barrier for the first time in that survey and threatening to hit the “Game Over” benchmark of 50. (Politico)

Donald Trump just got a little more vault in his ceiling. Nationwide, the polling-obsessed Manhattan multi-billionaire and leading Republican presidential candidate broke into the 40s on Monday.

According to the results of the latest Monmouth University poll surveying voters identifying as Republican or independents leaning toward the GOP, Trump earned 41 percent, nearly tripling the support of his closest rival, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who took 14 percent.

The poll underscores Trump’s success at keeping voters fixated on his unprecedented presidential campaign. The latest national survey was taken after Trump landed another whopper, proposing in an emailed statement last Monday to temporarily ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. The statement gave Trump another boost of media attention, and some speculated it was designed to shift the conversation away from a Monmouth poll from Iowa released earlier that day that showed Cruz with a 5-point edge in the state.

I suppose we have to inject the normal caveat here and remind ourselves that this is one poll and it needs to be repeated a few times to consider the numbers as a solid trend. (It’s worth noting that the latest WaPo/ABC poll came out on the same day and gave Trump 38, so that may not take long.) But how many times have we said that before? Trump came out in favor of banning Muslim immigration for a while and the media (along with all of his establishment opponents) freaked out. Doom and gloom were projected. And as we’ve seen every single time that Trump has “stumbled badly” on the trail, one week later he’s climbing further up the stairway to the nomination. (Finding out that we’re not even bothering to check the social media profiles of visa applicants probably hasn’t hurt Trump’s image of prescience on the subject.)

But this number is a bit more jarring than the previous ceilings we were assured Trump couldn’t break. Rush Limbaugh did the math yesterday.

If the sum total of all the other candidates is a number greater than Trump’s 30%, then you would have to say that the voters who supports somebody other than Trump is a greater number than what Trump’s is. So as the field winnows, as it will, it’s really important where those voters go. Say if Christie gets it. I’m just picking names here. I don’t know who’s gonna get out. If Christie gets out, Rand Paul gets out, if Kasich, Fiorina, where do their voters go? If their voters go to Cruz, big, go to Trump, also big. This we won’t know for a while, which is why I just found it extremely interesting the way Trump chose to go after Cruz, echoing the Republican establishment. I mean, one of the reasons Trump is doing so well is that he is perceived as the biggest anti-establishment candidate of the bunch.

I think also in this Monmouth poll that shows Trump at 41, you can’t take San Bernardino out of that. The fact that the San Bernardino thing happened and the Regime’s response to it has been pathetic, and Trump is the one guy who has stood up, and without any excuses, proclaimed what he would do.

Rush’s point about doing simple addition here is now becoming the dominant story when you’re talking about a number in the forties. There was an assumption being made in the media for quite a while – and some are still clinging to it today – that there would eventually be a winnowing of the establishment side of the field and the surviving “Anti-Trump” candidate would scoop up the rest of the votes and defeat him. But out of the 13 candidates debating tonight, there are nine who are not named Trump, Carson, Fiorina or Cruz and if you add up the support that all of them get into one basket, they still don’t make it to anywhere near 40. Supporters for Carson and Fiorina are likely of a mindset where if you gave them a choice between a GOPe contender and burning down the capital they’d probably excuse themselves to go shopping for some Jerry Cans and make a quick trip to the gas station.

And that leaves Cruz. Yes, he’s one of the ones with an office using a 20045 zip code, but he’s probably hated by the establishment candidates as much or more so than Trump. If there’s anyone with a D.C. office who might eventually adopt some of Trump’s supporters at this point, it really looks like the Texas senator. Barring a major sea change (with precious little time for that to happen) this is starting to look like a two person race and the numbers simply aren’t there for a Jeb, Rubio or Chris Christie comeback.


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1 posted on 12/15/2015 9:29:26 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

But but but . . . Cruz will win IA and that will completely change the election.


2 posted on 12/15/2015 9:30:54 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

but but... Newt Gingrich was polling at 35% this week in 2012...
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_1219.pdf


3 posted on 12/15/2015 9:33:23 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: justlittleoleme

Not in every state and not in every poll. Try again.


4 posted on 12/15/2015 9:33:56 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: justlittleoleme

And, BTW, his lead was not growing. Nor did he lead for six months.


5 posted on 12/15/2015 9:34:29 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Kaslin

It looks like the 3rd floor and moving up.


6 posted on 12/15/2015 9:34:49 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Kaslin
Trump chose to go after Cruz

That hurt Trump here, but most Americans probably don't know Ted Cruz and don't care.

7 posted on 12/15/2015 9:35:19 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: LS

It’s laughable how the “media” and “pundits” are doing the equivalent of rearranging the deckchairs on the SS Trump. The sad thing is they believe their opinions matter. The funny thing is they turn to Rush who they must hate more than Trump to try to make a point, but they don’t even know what point they’re trying to make...losers!


8 posted on 12/15/2015 9:35:40 AM PST by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Kaslin

The Tower of Trump.. ever rising..

has the field babbling like brooks.

‘Tis music to muh ears..

and brings laughter to the day..

To help wash the pain away..

of how that field went astray.


9 posted on 12/15/2015 9:37:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: justlittleoleme

But but...Newt’s wide support was thinner than a subatomic layer.


10 posted on 12/15/2015 9:38:07 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: justlittleoleme
but but... Newt Gingrich was polling at 35% this week in 2012...

Not a valid comparison at all. Trump has been leading for months and months. Poll after poll after poll. Trump's gonna ride this wave all the way to the White House.

11 posted on 12/15/2015 9:39:38 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: MUDDOG

Let us set the record straight here, Cruz went after Trump; Trump responded, and very effectively.


12 posted on 12/15/2015 9:39:58 AM PST by erkelly
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To: erkelly

Glad to hear that. I want to like Trump.


13 posted on 12/15/2015 9:40:47 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: LS

But but but . . . Cruz will win IA and that will completely change the election.

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Yep, I’ve read that horse manure too, posted by otherwise intelligent members.

Nationwide, it’s still Trump 41%, Cruz 14%. If an establishment candidate, Bush for instance, had Trump’s numbers, the media would be screaming, “it’s over folks”.


14 posted on 12/15/2015 9:43:09 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Kaslin

The poll underscores Trump’s success at keeping voters fixated on his unprecedented presidential campaign

Actually, it is the MSM that is keeping voters and everyone else fixated on Trump. In the background, Hillary is quietly moving past all of her legal, moral, personality, and incompetence problems.


15 posted on 12/15/2015 9:44:18 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (How many DICC's are there in the Republican party? Democrats In Conservative Clothing that is.)
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To: Kaslin

This poll was before Levin and Rush began questioning Trumps recent left leaning statements. I bet he goes down in the next poll.


16 posted on 12/15/2015 9:46:16 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

In the background, Hillary is quietly moving past all of her legal, moral, personality, and incompetence problems.

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Wait until the general election, Trump’s saving his best shots until then and unlike McCain or Romney, he will use them.

The rats couldn’t put up an easier and beatable target than H. Clinton.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.


17 posted on 12/15/2015 9:48:07 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Kaslin
Monmouth poll:

Cruz 14% + Rubio 10% + Carson 9% + Bush 3% + Kasich 3% + Christie 2% = 41%

Trump = 41%
18 posted on 12/15/2015 9:48:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: MNDude

You think Trump supporters care what Rush “Donald McCain” Limbaugh says? You are obviously not paying attention.


19 posted on 12/15/2015 9:49:27 AM PST by JoSixChip
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To: LS
but but but Cruz will win IA and that will completely change the election

Cruz cannot get voters new to Republican primaries and caucuses that Trump can. Even if somehow Cruz stops Trump from getting the nomination, I can't see how that translates to the nomination for him. Cruz just does not attract those non-traditional voters.

20 posted on 12/15/2015 9:50:50 AM PST by grania
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