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Radiometric backflip: Bird footprints overturn ‘dating certainty’
Creation Ministries International ^ | 4-18-16 | Jonathan O'Brien

Posted on 04/18/2016 10:55:02 AM PDT by fishtank

Radiometric backflip: Bird footprints overturn ‘dating certainty’

by Jonathan O'Brien

Using well-known radioisotope technology, scientists dated the Santo Domingo rock formation in Argentina at 212 million years old. This happened to agree well with a nearby geologic formation that was also radiometrically dated.1 The radiometric date of the Santo Domingo formation also agreed with the dating based on fossil wood found entombed in the rock. This wood came from an extinct species of tree conventionally believed to have existed around 200 million years ago.

Well-preserved and abundant tracks were also found in the rock, similar in appearance to bird tracks. The scientists, who assert that the earth is billions of years old, concluded that the footprints must have been made by an unknown species of a small bird-like dinosaur, because according to Darwinian theory birds weren’t supposed to be around 212 million years ago. The results were accepted and published by the science journal Nature in 2002.

Dating discrepancy

But recently, a different group of long-age-believing scientists took a fresh look at the bird-like dinosaur footprints and concluded that they were indeed made by birds after all—actually, by the familiar sandpiper of today, a small bird common to wetlands, grasslands and coastal habitats around the world.2 Many people alive today have seen identical tracks in the sand along a river bank, or at the beach. Realising that something was very much amiss, the new group asked for further radiometric dating. The new radioisotope date they received gave an age of 37 million years—a massive 175 million years younger than the original date.2 The scientists were unperturbed, and the results were again accepted for publication.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; notagggtopic; notanewstopic; notasciencetopic; radiometric; totalbs
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1 posted on 04/18/2016 10:55:02 AM PDT by fishtank
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yet another epic fail for the religion of darwinists.....countdown to dismissive remarks and calls of ‘you just dont know how science works’


2 posted on 04/18/2016 10:58:13 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: fishtank

“The new radioisotope date they received gave an age of 37 million years...”

Interesting to see that the folks at CMI are acknowledging that there are 37 million year old rocks on earth.


3 posted on 04/18/2016 11:03:23 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: fishtank
A lot of people, including many scientists who are not geologists, believe that long-age radioisotope dating provides a reliable and empirical measurement of real age. However, the reality is that such ‘dating’ is based on the types of fossils in the rock.

If that was true it would be impossible to do radiometric dating on any sample that doesn't contain fossils.

4 posted on 04/18/2016 11:04:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Timpanagos1

I think you’re stretching pretty badly to get that interpretation. What the article clearly implies is that the radiometric dating is completely unreliable, not that they accept any part of the interpretation of it.


5 posted on 04/18/2016 11:07:36 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: fishtank

So how old is the earth then?


6 posted on 04/18/2016 11:08:47 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: fishtank

They just need more grant money to get this figured out.


7 posted on 04/18/2016 11:09:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Timpanagos1

last line of article: “ The Bible preserves the historical account of a year-long watery catastrophe that affected the whole world about 4,500 years ago. The physical characteristics of the Santo Domingo formation are completely consistent with this.”


8 posted on 04/18/2016 11:10:34 AM PDT by b4me
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What the article clearly implies is that the radiometric dating is completely unreliable

Well, except when it involves the Shroud of Turin, I suppose.

9 posted on 04/18/2016 11:11:18 AM PDT by gdani (Election 2016: Pick your liberal)
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To: fishtank
well, if you want dating certainty, only one place to go...


10 posted on 04/18/2016 11:12:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: raygunfan

It’s amazing what’s being accomplished with genetic analysis these days in the study of evolution. Here’s one example:

http://www.scilogs.com/maniraptora/psittacopasserae-retroposons/


11 posted on 04/18/2016 11:13:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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When the point of the numbers is the orders of magnitude, you’ll notice that a 5.7x error is a lot less damaging than a 21200x error. Being off by less than one order of magnitude isn’t a deal breaker.

Good time to ask the question: how does CMI reconcile fitting all visible cosmological objects (stars, galaxies) in a universe just 20,000 light years wide?


12 posted on 04/18/2016 11:19:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: b4me

There are a lot of formations that aren’t. Most, actually.


13 posted on 04/18/2016 11:21:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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14 posted on 04/18/2016 11:21:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: fishtank

“The date was rejected by paleoanthropologist Richard Leakey.”

Interesting that google does not return a link on this ....


15 posted on 04/18/2016 11:32:54 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: fishtank
Dear Young Earth Creationists,

On behalf of the whole workforce down here, we want to congratulate you for your diligent and unceasing efforts.

You continue to score success after success in keeping humans with a knowledge of physics, history, and biology out of the embrace of our Adversary.

With warmest regards,

Screwtape, Beelzebub and Co.

16 posted on 04/18/2016 11:43:31 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon ("I play to people's fantasies." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: DesertRhino
So how old is the earth then?

Old as dirt?

17 posted on 04/18/2016 11:46:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: ctdonath2

> how does CMI reconcile fitting all visible cosmological
> objects (stars, galaxies) in a universe just 20,000 light
> years wide?

Here is a presentation by Dr. Russ Humphreys of ICR on Starlight and Time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCK8y4RBeWI


18 posted on 04/18/2016 12:14:04 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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19 posted on 04/18/2016 12:39:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: fishtank

Creationism (noun): A belief system created by Scientologists as a subterfuge to make Scientology sound remotely sane in comparison.

Straight from Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary.


20 posted on 04/18/2016 1:44:44 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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