Posted on 05/04/2016 9:15:55 PM PDT by Innovative
For more than two years, Hillary Clinton has been Democrats' sure-thing next presidential nominee, while Republicans sorted through a messy and expansive field of wannabes.
Yet now, she's dealing with an interminable primary, as the GOP's new presumptive nominee Donald Trump trains his sights on her.
The sudden departures of Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. John Kasich from the Republican race - which came sooner than Clinton aides expected - coupled with Sen. Bernie Sanders' decision to stay in the race, creates a new challenge for Clinton, who now has to defend herself on two flanks.
"I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that any Republican, let alone Donald Trump, was able to solidify the nomination before she was," said Patrick Murray, the polling director at Monmouth University. "This makes it really tough for her. There's no feasible way for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination, yet his decision to fight on in anything more than just a token way means she's got to continue to expend resources in places that she wouldn't bother."
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And her energy.
What's left of it.
She sounded pretty bad in what little I listened to her in Indiana
Go Bernie, Go!!
Eeeks! Be careful what you wish for Gator.
Bush was the reason for the rejection of McCain while the simultaneous rejection of Hillary was the reason for Obama.
Obama is hands down the reason for Trump winning the primary.
Hillary, tied at the hip to Obama is precisely why Trump will win the general election, likely by a landslide.
This is a total rejection of Obama (Obamacare, Benghazi and all of it), more than a tidal shift of the electorate’s voting patterns. Modern voting shifts more on a whim (style and emotion) and less based on party. Polls can no longer pretend to statistically predict (to the extent they ever really could) the whims of the electorate. Trump knows all of this. Bernie also knows all this and both have seized upon it.
I always say, sometimes, timing is everything.
If Bernie manages to seize upon it with much greater (think Yuge) momentum he could actually pull it off right under all our noses, all for the very same reasons Trump is popular.
We cannot again dismiss how totally bewildered the voting public can become with perceived personality. I don’t think Bernie has shown any so far. But a lot of people like him. I just hope that does not grow. Nobody I can find actually likes Hillary.
Obama, or Hillary, could as easily be said to be the reason for Bernie. Let us please not lose sight of Bernie.
If Bernie were to beat Hillary, it would result in a very dangerous predicament purely in regards to enthusiasm in November.
It may be hazardous to say, but I hope Hillary prevails over Bernie so that the whole country can reject her in unison in November. She deserves another good a** kicking.
:)
We don’t have all the clues. We do not know what Cruz and or Kasich were promised in back rooms.
He's on it. Here's a sample:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump What a great evening we had. So interesting that Sanders beat Crooked Hillary. The dysfunctional system is totally rigged against him!
We can probably all agree that whatever they sling at him, will be coming back ten fold. Right at their throats.
I was only joking...and I share your dream. ;>)
I know. Isn't it ironic, therefore, that all Hillary's friends in the Media were so eager to show us all of these polls that said how easy it would be for Hillary to beat Trump?
It almost seems as if the Left was trying to manipulate public opinion, instead of measure it.
Or maybe they just had the GOP's best interests at heart, and were trying to dissuade GOP voters from making a mistake?
Guess what?
Hillary and her Democrat ilk are pissing down their legs right now.
Why?
Because they know that they're beat if they run Hillary.
While it lasts, the panic on the Democrat side during this primary cycle is going to be fun to watch.
Vote Trump
Money. There was money available to run against Trump until Indiana then it dried up. The 2 stooges accepted it and tried to make a showing. It didn't work.
Cruz wasn't always a stooge but you could feel his pivot to nothing but "Stop Trump" once the "Stop Trump" money came his way.
Cruz was my guy but once his campaign went into "Stop Trump" mode he seemed to cheapen his campaign and it really turned me off.
My thoughts exactly.
The Bernie phenomenon is an indication that even the "takers", Romney's 47%, are not a happy bunch, as relates to the Obama years. The Bernie turnout has the same emotional character as that of Trump's voters, and is not so much an embrace of socialism as it is frustration with the Obama/Hillary brand of liberal governance. Traditional voting blocs which should be in the bag for Hillary are turning out for Bernie.
If Hillary gets the nomination, they stay home.
This puts every state in play for Trump, but only if Hillary/Obama is the opposition.. The white guilt that gave us two Obama terms isn't there for Hillary. There is no historical turnout model that can be relied upon for the general election to come. Kansas, Toto.
Your entire post is spot on, ri4dc!
The campaign exposed Lyin’ Ted as a longtime Bush Establishmentarian as well as Heidi’s Goldman-Sachs “NO BORDERS” North American Union.
These people are the Crony Establishment we just beat in Round 1 of our hostile takeover and they and their ilk should never be in positions of power again.
Very kind of you, thank you.
I have a serious question, if you would have any thought about it.
IF Hillary did pick the Bern as her VP, would it, in your opinion, change the equation ? I’m honestly not sure, but I worry it could up the Dem base energy and be tougher to beat.
Gee, ya think?! There is no 'almost'. Manipulation & propaganda is in their DNA.
Even last night - after The Donald became the presumptive nominee - I heard a talking head say that Trump gets the angry white man vote, but is polling 26 points behind Shrillary with women. I don't believe that for a second.
It is a racist, bigoted, homophiliac, homosexual, Muslim-centric, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, communist (er, democrat) convention. There will be no adults in the room, on the floor, on the TV screens or in the pressbox/cheering session.
It means she can't pivot to the middle and pretend to be a moderate as Liberal/Progressive, that she is, has to do. He will attack her if she does.
BWaa, Haaa, Haaa!
Wow, good question.
At first blush, I would say as long as she heads the ticket, Obama is still the donkey in the room, and Trump still wins. Perhaps a slight improvement in her performance but still a drubbing.
Bernie supporters are largely young, jobless, or near-jobless disaffecteds who traditionally don't turn out anyway. Voting isn't a fulfilling social event for them, and if their man is second banana, they'll choose to stay home with mom and dad and play video games.
Excellent thoughts. Thank you!
Should cankles choose comrade bern as a veep, then, yes, there is a danger of his supporters giving piaps enough turnout to win. Of course, the establishment, kristol and those sorts will be in a pickle given her poor health and having an out and out collectivist a heartbeat away from the presidency. The uniparty establishment doesn't want all their crony industries nationalized. They have money, but they don't have votes.
This election cycle has certainly been entertaining.
> comrade bern to do well enough so that it appears he’s been cheated out of the nomination and his supporters either stay home in the general, or cross the aisle and vote for Trump in protest ..
I think plenty of seeds for that perception have been planted. As I have watched my fb feed, ardent comrade supporters have complained that he can’t seem to win with the super delegate deck stacked against him. I simply fear, however unlikely, he finds his stride and peaks suddenly .... OR, Mrs. Bill partners with him and his voters and are able to steal the enthusiasm. Let that flame burn out.
It seems to me that the continuing Democrat nomination race benefits Hillary. It allows fawning coverage by the media as the primaries continue. It allows her to be cast as a “hard working warrior with the stamina to take on the evil Trump”.
Meanwhile, Hillary will portray herself as a victim of those nasty men, Bernie and Donald. Vote for a victim for the job of leader of the free world!!!!
The media will find a way to spin this to her advantage.
Is that one of his? If so that’s exactly what I mean. He can be the referee for the democrat primaries.
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