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Archbishop Chaput's column: Some personal thoughts on the months ahead [Trump, Hillary equally bad.]
catholicphilly.com ^ | 12 Aug 2016 | Archbp. Charles Chaput

Posted on 08/13/2016 8:43:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan

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To: Arthur McGowan

As a faithful, practicing Catholic this is maddening beyond words. It’s an outrage. Hillary Clinton supports and promotes almost everything that is antithetical to the Christian faith and culture, including consummate greed, infanticide, gay marriage, transgenderism, etc.
Trump? He wants to enforce laws on the books to protect Americans and use American law to protect the American people from obvious threats from peoples hostile to Western Christian society.
To me, one side is demonic while the other side is simpatico with Christian culture.


21 posted on 08/13/2016 9:31:49 PM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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To: amihow

Yes. He is Native American.

He also writes in a weasely style. Notice how often he hides behind what “a lot of people” think? Notice how totally abstract his comments about pro-abortion katholyk politicians are?


22 posted on 08/13/2016 9:40:24 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Has Chaput gone lefty? I thought he would at a minimum support the more pro-life candidate.


23 posted on 08/13/2016 9:43:32 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Arthur McGowan
Yeah, sit at home and pray things get better, just like with the Muzzie invasion where you let the murdering members of Satan's religion in then pray they don't kill you.

IMHo, we're almost as bad off as during the Arian heresy days.

24 posted on 08/13/2016 9:54:40 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Conservative Gato

It’s not just the Catholic church. I’m seeing the same mentality in the Lutheran Church, mostly from former Cruz supporters.


25 posted on 08/13/2016 9:59:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Go Back to Mama!.... And Your Mother's Voting for Trump!)
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To: impimp

He is caught in a web. He knows better, I think. But he doesn’t dare name any candidate, and he doesn’t dare destroy his respectability at the bishops’ conference (like Bruskewitz and Burke, who are non-persons), but he wants to be accepted among a certain kind of “conservative”—the First Things and CRISIS crowd.

He also has to know that the wrath of Bergoglio will come down on him if he sounds too much like Burke. Bergoglio likes bishops like Cupich, who is overtly pro-Democrat and overtly pro-abortion. (According to Cupich, getting aborted is no worse than being unemployed or “undocumented.”)

There is some strong “pro-life” language in this article, but he NULLIFIES EVERY BIT OF IT by DENIGRATING all people who might vote for Trump. He characterizes ALL Trump voters as people who use “some strange calculus.”


26 posted on 08/13/2016 10:03:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: dragonblustar

Proving that there are millions of people whose “spiritual” discernment is no deeper than following any greasy fraud who waves a Bible in the air.


27 posted on 08/13/2016 10:20:49 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ah, what the heck. Kill the babies, take down the borders.
Amen.


28 posted on 08/13/2016 10:37:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Arthur McGowan
“It’s absurd – in fact, it’s blasphemous – to assume that God prefers any political party in any election year.”

Geez next he is going to say God is not a football fan...

29 posted on 08/13/2016 10:47:33 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Arthur McGowan
.. it’s absurd – in fact, it’s blasphemous – to assume that God prefers any political party in any election year ..

Vote Amalekite! How sad, to find church leaders going all GOPe - right when muscular Christianity's never been more needed.

30 posted on 08/13/2016 10:58:59 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Globalism = Terrorism)
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To: montanajoe

It’s blasphemous to say that God prefers the party that is against butchering babies?

This is the drooling imbecility that Catholics have come to expect from their bishops.


31 posted on 08/13/2016 11:10:14 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

It’s blasphemous to say that God prefers the party that is against butchering babies?

This is the drooling imbecility that Catholics have come to expect from their bishops.


32 posted on 08/13/2016 11:10:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Jeff Chandler

Now you’re thinking like the Catholic bidhops!


33 posted on 08/13/2016 11:12:08 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Although I agree with your sentiments on abortion I really don’t think God is a partisan or a football fan.

He gave man free will and a conscious, its up to each individual to make his own way. God shows the way but he doesn’t pick sides otherwise the concept of free will would be meaningless in my opinion...


34 posted on 08/13/2016 11:21:15 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Arthur McGowan

I tried to leave a comment but the website wouldn’t let me. Here’s what I attempted to post:

So disappointed to hear you say both candidates are equally flawed. Hillary is a corrupt liar who has been in politics for over 40 years. She’s part of the elite cabal that wants complete dominion over all of us. Worst of all, she’s rabidly pro-choice, which is antithetical to Church teaching. Trump, on the other hand, is pro-life. Since you claim in your essay that respect for life is the #1 issue Catholics should consider, the choice is clear. Trump 2016.


35 posted on 08/13/2016 11:26:00 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: montanajoe

So God was equally pleased by Hitler’s building of the death camps as He was by those who strove to save Jews from going to them? God is equally pleased by those who saw the heads off Christians in the Middle East as he is by those who try to stop them?

That’s what you are saying when you say God is “non-partisan.”

If you don’t think God prefers a party that is against tearing babies into pieces to a party that calls tearing babies to pieces a “right,” then I daresay you don’t know much about God.


36 posted on 08/13/2016 11:26:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

“then I daresay you don’t know much about God.”

I daresay that observation has been made about you. I guess I’m in good company...


37 posted on 08/13/2016 11:35:34 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

What anybody has said about me is irrelevant.

So, you are sticking with your position that God is equally pleased by gassing Jews and saving Jews? By the Democrats’ support for abortion and the Republicans’ opposition to abortion?


38 posted on 08/13/2016 11:47:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

I did not say anything about God being equally pleased about anything. Those are your words not mine.

I am sticking to my position that God is not a partisan, he does not prefer nor interfere in the political squabbles of mankind.

God’s word is clear on the subject of abortion as are the teachings of the Catholic Church. As I stated God’s position is clear. But he is not going to push those with free will one way or another.

It’s similar to the argument as to why a benevolent Lord would allow all the evil in the world and my answer has always been that the evil in the world goes with free will. On this earth evil is an unavoidable trade off for the gift of free will...


39 posted on 08/14/2016 12:02:02 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Arthur McGowan
Where is the wimpy reflective non-judgmental Christ church hierarchy loves to emulate?

Not in my Bible.

40 posted on 08/14/2016 12:15:58 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Globalism = Terrorism)
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