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Saudi strikes back: Top cleric says Iranians 'not Muslims'
Middle East Eye ^

Posted on 09/09/2016 1:07:26 PM PDT by ameribbean expat

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To: ameribbean expat

the Iranian IslamoNazis try to murder (or hire others to murder) as many innocent Christians, Jews, and other human beings as they can...
just like how Saudi Arabia does

just like how Mohammed taught them

they BOTH look like pretty damned “good” Moslems


21 posted on 09/09/2016 1:56:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: ameribbean expat
Lying sack of camel dung--he is practicing Taqiyya--a tenet of Islam that encourages lying to protect or further this belief system.

The truth is that the sauds are their biggest cheerleaders.

22 posted on 09/09/2016 1:58:08 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: WENDLE

**Do I care what Sunnis think about Shiites? No.**

I certainly don’t give a shiite!


23 posted on 09/09/2016 1:58:54 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: Gamecock

:)


24 posted on 09/09/2016 1:59:57 PM PDT by WENDLE (Hillary emailed Jake Sullivan to remove 'The security headers" !!)
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To: ameribbean expat

6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other. We still owe yous an ass kicking from the 70’s.


25 posted on 09/09/2016 2:02:18 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: xp38

Zoroastrianism was the state religion of pre-Islamic Iran.


26 posted on 09/09/2016 2:13:25 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: ameribbean expat

the religion is a religion of hate and exclusion. when ever the Muslim religion gets to the point that there is no other religions in the area to go after it starts to turn in on itself with factions fighting over who the real Muslims are once it gets rid of organized factions to the point there is only one group it starts to devourer itself accusing those within of blasphemy and other crimes. the philosophy behind Islam is evil you can tell by the fruit it bears.


27 posted on 09/09/2016 2:23:28 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: ameribbean expat

If Iran and Saudi Arabia start a shooting war with each other, good! It would solve a lot of problems for our security.
We no longer need Middle East oil. This week drillers discovered a new energy field in Reeves Co. in far West Texas with over 3 billion barrels of oil and 75 trillion cu. ft. of natural gas. We can be energy self sufficient in a very short time, and the Middle East can kill each other to their hearts’ content.


28 posted on 09/09/2016 2:27:14 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ameribbean expat

Shiites don’t consider Sunnis Muslims, nor do Sunnis consider Shiites Muslims. Just like some Pentecostals and Baptists don’t consider Roman Catholics Christians.


29 posted on 09/09/2016 2:36:58 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: ameribbean expat

Iran vs. Saudi Arabia - that would be fun to watch!
Only hope we could stay out of it.
Might even go nuclear with Saudis buying some Paki warheads while the Iranians deploy their own.


30 posted on 09/09/2016 2:39:05 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: xp38
Sunni or later Shiite is gonna happen.

The Iran-Iraq war was a very good thing

31 posted on 09/09/2016 2:39:20 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Little Ray

Wolf Blitzed is worried about job loss

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/09/wolf-blitzer-is-worried-defense-contractors-will-lose-jobs-if-u-s-stops-arming-saudi-arabia/


32 posted on 09/09/2016 2:43:33 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: ameribbean expat

People who don’t like me taking each other down.
All good!


33 posted on 09/09/2016 2:59:59 PM PDT by IWontSubmit
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In a way they are fighting proxy war now in Yemen. Read just last week that fighters in Yemen launched a rocket toward a base near Mecca. If they get a bit more range I assume they will target the place to “show that the arabs can’t protect it” or some such.


34 posted on 09/09/2016 3:36:30 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: Lurkinanloomin

But the Shiite/Sunni death match has been ongoing for the past millennium and a half and for some bizarre reason that totally escapes me, the United States, far from sitting back and watching, has been actively siding with the Sunnis.

It is quite amazing to watch how Saudi money has turned the US military into Sunni Janissaries, the Christian mercenaries used by the Sulatn to fight his enemies because he was too lazy and incompetent to fight them.

Everywhere we look in this Islamic civil war we see the US intervening on the side of the medieval, Arab, Bedouin Sunnis fighting against the Shias, or to put it more specifically the Persians, it is absolutely crazy.

If the US really does feel the need to intervene in this civil war, and I see no reason why it should, it should at least be backing the more civilised, educated, western-minded Persians.

But no, the US backs the House of Saud every time, the same people who flew the planes into the WTC (it wasn’t the Iranians who did that, it was our good friends the Sunni Arabs).


35 posted on 09/09/2016 7:43:48 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: JimRed; ameribbean expat; TigerLikesRooster; nuconvert; odds
An Islamic conference was held Aug. 25-27 in Chechnya's capital, Grozny, and senior Sunni scholars from various Sunni schools attended. The meeting was sponsored by Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov. The conference aimed at introducing “Sunni identity” and determining its adherents.

The closing statement limited the Sunni community to “Ash’aris, Maturidis by belief, followers of the four jurisprudential schools of Sunnism (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i and Hanbali) and followers of pure Sufism in terms of ethics and chastity. Any other sects are not included in the Sunni community.” This clearly indicates that, in the participants’ view, Wahhabism is not considered part of Sunni Islam, but rather an emerging innovation (Bid’ah) in Islam.

The closing statement also restricted the big Islamic schools to deep-rooted religious institutions in “Al-Azhar University (Cairo, Egypt), University of Al-Quaraouiyine (Fez, Morocco), Al-Zaytoonah University (Tunisia) and Hadhramaut University (Yemen).” The statement did not mention Islamic centers and religious institutions in Saudi Arabia.

The conference provoked Wahhabi scholars and Saudi officials who considered it a conspiracy from kuffar (nonbelievers) against Saudi Arabia, and an attempt to make a coalition between Saudi Arabia's enemies - Shiites and Sufis in particular. The attendance of Ahmed el-Tayeb, the grand imam of Al-Azhar in Cairo, at the conference sparked the anger of many Saudis. Prominent writer Muhammad al-Shaikh tweeted, “Tayeb’s participation at the Grozny conference that dismissed Saudi Arabia from Sunnism will force us to change our behavior with Egypt. Our country is more important, and (President Abdel Fattah al-)Sisi’s Egypt shall go to hell.”

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/09/anti-wahhabism-shiism-sufism-muslims-world-saudi-sunnism.html What will happen when Saudi stop giving money to Egypt?

36 posted on 09/16/2016 8:52:30 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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"This clearly indicates that, in the participants’ view, Wahhabism is not considered part of Sunni Islam, but rather an emerging innovation (Bid’ah) in Islam."

Actually, Wahhabism is much like Khomeini's doctrine of Velayat_e Faghih. Both are innovations or inventions. The former an innovation of Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab (a sunni saudi preacher), and the latter, invented by Khomeini, derived from Shia Islam. Both doctrines have their foundation in Islam, which makes them rotten to the core.

37 posted on 09/16/2016 5:23:11 PM PDT by odds
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To: PapaBear3625

Thankyou. It’s refreshing to read an intelligent and erudite comment in this thread :)


38 posted on 09/16/2016 5:26:16 PM PDT by odds
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To: ameribbean expat; xp38

This sorta mudslinging from the Saudis has been going on for years, if not decades & centuries.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2717607/posts

Though the Saudi’s compadres, aka mullahs in Iran, have publicly called Zoroastrians “fire-worshipping pagans” too. So, no credit to Team Saud for innovation.

At least The mullahs regime allows churches, synagogues, temples, and free worship for non-muslims in Iran, including Yazidis. That’s more than anyone can say for Saudi Arabia.


39 posted on 09/16/2016 6:08:37 PM PDT by odds
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks


40 posted on 09/17/2016 5:51:59 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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