Skip to comments.Sanders Supporter Writes In Salon...
Posted on 11/23/2016 3:09:14 PM PST by Kaslin
The holiday season is approaching and its the time for miracles. For Salon, the unabashedly liberal site, Christmas may have come early with an op-ed from a liberal, tenured history professor from Austin, Texas, who says that hes had it with the media lying about President-elect Donald J. Trump. Okay—maybe its not really a holiday miracle, but a broken clock is right twice a day. Al Martinez was honing in on one of Trumps remarks, which got mangled in the press: that Mexicans are rapists. He juxtaposed what Trump said, followed by what the media reported, along with the notion that yeah—maybe illegal immigrants killing people is actually an issue that deserves some attention. Moreover, he later explains how Trumps position is actually more in line with exiting federal immigration laws (how awful!), and that while the Left tried to paint the president-elect as a racist by naming this, that, and the other; they should count how many times hes praised Mexicans. Heck, he praised them in the statement that landed him in media hot water to begin with back in 2015.
This is what Trump said:
When do we beat Mexico at the border? Theyre laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you; theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what were getting.
You might well dislike Trumps words. I did. But lets not make it worse. He did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet thats what many commentators did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about good people. They said he was demonizing Mexicans as rapists. They argued that Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But thats not what Trump claimed.
It is no wonder that many people think the media is grossly dishonest. No wonder Mr. Trumps critiques of the media make his followers cheer.
Trump was discussing crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants. Is it true that some people who illegally cross the border from Mexico are good? Yes. Is it true that some others commit crimes? Yes. Is that a problem? People disagree. Some conjecture that unauthorized immigrants dont commit more crimes than U.S. citizens. But crimes by unauthorized immigrants, even murders, would not have happened if those individuals had not entered the U.S.
The Texas Department of Public Safety identified 207,076 foreign aliens who were booked into Texas county jails from October 2008 through August 1, 2014. Their term foreign aliens includes both foreigners who are in Texas legally and foreigners who entered illegally. They were accused of 357,884 crimes in those 70 months, including these charges: 4,413 terroristic threats, 60,973 robberies and larcenies, 6,636 vehicle thefts, 78,682 assaults, 12,869 sexual assaults and offenses, 1,113 kidnapping, and 3,089 homicides.
That includes, an average of 1,383 charges of sexual assaults per year, in Texas alone. The real number of rapes and sexual assaults is larger since many victims do not report these crimes. According to the National Crime and Victimization Survey, 2008-2012, approximately 68% of sexual assault crimes are not reported. So I estimate that foreigners commit roughly 4,000 sexual assaults in Texas each year.
In Texas, roughly 529 foreigners per year were accused of committing murder. Plus, the FBI reports that 36% of homicides nationwide remain unsolved.
These crime rates are staggering and offensive. None of the women and men who were killed in by unauthorized immigrants in Texas would have died if the murderers had not entered the U.S. illegally.
These are not just words. Pause for a moment to think about a Texas woman whose husband was murdered one night. Think about parents who never saw their son again because he was murdered. Think of the thousands of families standing at the cemeteries.
Trump says that everyone who didnt enter the U.S. legally should return to their countries. They have to go. We might well disagree. But his view is closer to Immigration law. If you prefer amnesty then lawmakers have to create a law to that effect. Trump insists: I want people to come in, but they have to come in legally.
Regardless, countless many people think that Trump is racist against Mexicans. I suggest that anyone who thinks that should count how many times Trump has praised Mexicans.
Martinez said he is a Warren and Sanders fan, but these are liberals we can talk to without having the fear of being assaulted or smeared as bigots in a conversation. It also seemed as if Salon nixed some portions of his piece, which he re-posted in the comments section of Salon. This related to the times Trump has praised the Mexican people.
He [Trump] says such things again and again, to tens of thousands of people at rallies in Texas, Ohio, New Hampshire, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Nevada, Florida, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Illinois, etc. Trump says: I love the Mexican people, theyre great people, he wrote. People dont know that he says these things because the press does not report it, he added.
I may have been a bit knee jerk with Trump. No, I was very knee jerk with Trump because I wanted to see a solid Republican take on Hillary Clinton, I still feel if Rubio had won the nomination we still wouldve won, but Trump won the nomination. The primary was over. My guys lost and the only principle that mattered was denying Hillary Clinton the keys to the White House. Period. Yes, I criticized Trump on the campaign trail, only because even with him as our nominee, though deeply flawed, I thought he could still beat her since Clinton was worse. Regardless, in retrospect, lets be honest that Trump endured the mother of all media attacks against him.
Still, even with the media coming at him from all sides, the points that Martinez noted, how the media distorts or refuses to report, drove voters in the rural parts of the country to ignore them. In fact, some could say that they bolstered his support among his supporters. To them, Trump was driving the media elite who in turn serves the interests of the cosmopolitan elites. Now, some of the Left might go after Professor Martinez for simply saying that the media shouldnt lie, that there are stats that show illegal immigrants commit crimes, and that Trump might not be a radical on immigration as some are saying in the press. Yet, his point is mainly focused on the first part, which is that the media was caught lying pervasively this cycle. Maybe that was the kick that got Trump to not only beat Clinton, but also bring more Republicans into the fold. There were a lot of Republicans who were wary about Trump, though 90 percent ended up voting for him. You may not think Trump is a Republican, but the attacks on him were absurd. In fact, every attack on Republican candidates since the beginning of time has been ridiculous. Have we forgotten that Mitt Romney was a bully or something in college? That he will ban birth control? That hes the devil incarnate? Those attacks have been lobbed; no one listens to them now.
So, bravo Mr. Martinez for writing this for Salon, though the lefty publication did post in August how the Iran Deal is a mess and it's all Obamas fault. Again, broken clocks being right twice a day. As annoying as they are, this is why you should read left wing news sites because it's good to know the other sides argument and sometimes you could be surprised by what gets published.
It’s an act of love :)
With the numbers he shows for murders, it is reasonable to calculate that Mexican illegals commit 2/3 of homicides in Texas.
It ain't complicated.It ain't rocket science.
We knew it!
“...Its an act of love :)...”
Sigh... so close, Jeb... and yet... NOT... (Thank God)...
I agree with you completely.
please clap!!!!! lol
Took me a minute to figure that one out what with brain damage and all :)
You made my night. :)
And he was... SERIOUS, brother...
It was probably THE pathetic moment to end all pathetic moments...
In a way, I felt bad for Jeb... typical example of not being able to live up to someone else’s expectations of you. Completely in over his head, and deep down inside, I think even HE knew it.
But didn’t have the balls to tell his handlers “No, this isn’t for me”.
I NEVER felt bad.
GW didn’t vote for trump. #### the whole family.
RE Felt bad:
Just from a human standpoint, I did. He was completely NOT in his element, and he ran into a freight train called Donald Trump.
From a Political Standpoint, yes... **** them all. He was completely and utterly destroyed in the primary. It was actually educational to watch it.
I couldn’t BELIEVE how badly he lost.
That’s two elections in a row where primary folk were out of touch with reality.
hillary in both primaries, even though she won the second.
Giuliani, who I LOVE, but is not conservative enough at the national level, and now jeb.
“...primary folk were out of touch with reality....”
Pinging a few other folks here, because it’s an interesting discussion..
DP, I think, what you just said, is the nutshell IN a nutshell.
These political people - wealthy, pampered, living in a bubble - have ZERO clue how their policies and regulations affect us, the normal working folks. They consider themselves above the laws that they deign to IMPOSE on us by the coercive force of a weaponized government.
THEY’RE not concerned with keeping the lights on, the heat on, food on the kitchen table, clothes on the kids’ backs, medical bills piling up, driving a fifteen year old car because you can’t afford a new one, taxes being forcibly taken out of your money to pay for people who won’t work or to support people who are here illegally...
They don’t understand it, because they don’t GIVE a f**k. They don’t give a f**k about you, or me, my kids, or my neighbors kids. Only about themselves.
And then along comes a guy like Trump - who one Freeper described as “Just like me, except with a whole lot of money.”
And it resonated. It resonated because THIS is a guy worked hard all his life, busted his ass to “make it” and succeed, and embraced and acheived the AMerican Dream that ALL of us want to attain.
And he listened to us. He listened to the out of work coal miners who were watching their kids go hungry, and gritting their teeth while the other side talked about a “War on Coal”; he listened to the AMERICAN workers who were put out of jobs by illegals and companies going offshore to get cheap labor at OUR expense. He listened to ordinary, decent, normal, hard working people who were sick and tired of being called names by a political party that has completey forgotten how to be American, and what it means to BE American.
While on the other side, from that same policital party, we had this vile, criminal shrew screeching at us at every opportunity, telling us how awful and hateful WE were, for disagreeing with her world view... all the while, riding her husband’s coattails and lecturing us on why she’s entitled to be the first woman President... and in reality was even LESS qualified than the subversive we have there now.
This was a no-brainer. You can only piss on our people for so long before we piss back.
What’s disturbing is that SO many still voted for her, still believe the bullsh*t she spewed, her whole PARTY spewed.
We have a lot of work to do to set things right. Time for OUR own “Long March” to begin, to fix this Country.
GREAT post. It’s the truth.
He’s a Queens suburbs boy whose pop happened to be very wealthy.
That a FAR cry from growing up on the East side of Manhattan!!
“...Queens suburbs boy whose pop happened to be very wealthy...”
And his Pop was probably very wealthy because HE worked his ass off to make it and own the American Dream.
It’s a success story for all of us, as opposed to an Affirmative Action story that produces... well, we already saw what that produces.
I never got out of that lower middle class mindset and I’m blown away by what some cousins and sisters/brothers are making!
But it was ALL hard work.
And I can’t complain :) Have a comfortable life.
But I tell my niece, who’s 26 and has saved about 18k, IT DOESN’T DO ANYTHING AT ZERO PERCENT!!
She is young. Now is the time to take calculated chances. But she is in the lower middle class frame of thought and terrified of losing it and thinks it’s a tremendous amount.
It may have been once...
“...26 and has saved about 18k...”
But it’s an accomplishment in this day and age, for sure... when so many 20 somethings are sitting in Mom’s basement.
But by all means, continue to coach her and keep on it. Sometimes, that’s all someone needs - a mentor.
I’m trying bro.
Even 20 percent in a strong ETF or mutual fund would be a start.
SOMETHING to get her over her fears.
Thanks for the advice.
Litle whippersnapper. After college, she drifted. 2 years ago she became a hostess at Bonefish Grill.
She now is in charge of the scheduling, the interviewing, the books and the food ordering and doubled her salary :)
The American dream isn’t dead and when obama’s sons/daughters tell her to check her privilege, she says ### you!!! :)
I was sitting on my front porch enjoying a hot summer day some years ago.
I heard a sound, my house being about 5 houses from the corner. A car came careening around the corner at a high rate of speed and slammed into one parked, car, another parked car and another.
The car finally stopped and four men exited and ran in four different directions as fast as they could.
Yes, they were Mexican, leaving 4 other car owners with the tab.
[Actually not al all an uncommon site here in L.A.]
“...After college, she drifted. 2 years ago she became a hostess at Bonefish Grill...”
... Instead of going on welfare, having the first of 5 kids from five fathers, and bitching about how it’s everyone else’s fault...
She’s a success story in the making, my brother. Keep Encouraging that and push her higher.
Brings to mind a favorite quote of mine:
“I once you, Ryan... if even ONE makes it out, it’s a Victory...” -Trevor Howard, Von Ryan’s Express.
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