Skip to comments.Report: Russia to host Fatah-Hamas reconciliation talks
Posted on 01/03/2017 3:10:01 AM PST by Eleutheria5
oscow will host a meeting of the Palestinian Authority's Fatah and Hamas factions on January 15th, according to Russia's TASS news agency.
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More like mixing vinegar and baking soda and sticking it in a microwave. They’ll pro bally off each other across the table.
It’s rather strange.... All it took was the election of a completely incompetent and diplomatically daft President such as Obama over an eight year period to destroy
America’s position as the preeminent diplomatic broker. Russian influence has grown substantially and the Barrack Obama, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton before him are the responsible parties for this dangerous decline in American influence. They fiddled while the world burned and Vlad and the Russians have stepped in to fill the void.
Obama’s legacy is the decline of American influence throughout the world... Clap. Clap. Clap.
pro bally - probably
Trump is going to have to lean on Russia to demand Israeli recognition accompanied by an understanding that Russia will not fund aide to them [Hamas-Fatah] without that recognition. ... Best case scenario.
It’s not just Obama... the US government has thrown trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives into the Middle East since Carter only creating chaos and mayhem while (intentionally or not) strengthening mostly the wrong sides. In any case we have nothing positive to show for after decades of interventionism in the region.
The Russians (unlike the Soviets then or the US recently) have a rather pragmatic outlook, not ideologically driven, are no-nonsense negotiators and ready to kick rears when really necessary. They may well be much more successful than the US was.
Good Luck to ‘em. We might benefit from this in the long run.
The big difference: Russia does what it considers it’s actual national interest. The US is notoriously pushed around by foreign-controlled lobbies and “think tanks”.
Trump ought to keep out as much as possible and let Putin handle it.
Hamas WILL talk with the Russians,because they know the Russians will kill them everyone if they do not.
Uniting these two factions is not a good thing. Getting Russia involved is not a good thing.
The best thing is for countries not directly involved to butt out. Outside actors only pour gasoline onto the fire. That includes UN, EU, US, and obviously the Saudis et al.
Whats more, treating backwater mayors and mafiosos as if they were heads of state only pours gasoline on the fire. Their only source of importance and revenue is the threat of violence, which to be credible must be renewed periodically with real violence. They have no reason to seek peace when violence is the only thing that puts them on anyone’s map. The day they choose peace is the day they go back to being backwater mayors, and all the billions stop flowing their way. The incentives are backwards and as a result peace with these killers and shakedown artists is not on the horizon regardless of what anyone says.
Not sure what this is about yet....so I’ll withhold any comments.
Hey, they both exist for one purpose; well two- to kill Jews and destroy Israel.
Three. In the interim to squirrel away money in the Caymans and Switzerland.
I took it as an adverb. Pro bally off each other = have some big league pitchers throw fast balls at each other(Abbas and Mr. Hamas)’s heads, until one or both are dead.
Utter nonsense the Russians would be more than happy to arm Hamas
>>”The big difference: Russia does what it considers its actual national interest. The US is notoriously pushed around by foreign-controlled lobbies and think tanks.”<<
You may be right.. certainly for foreign lobbies, and ‘donations’.
Also think the US as a rule tends to take a more short-term approach to foreign policy & gains, without carefully considering the longer-term implications and consequences. The Russians and the Chinese tend to think more long term, for their national interests too.
September 7, 2016.
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was a Soviet spy in Damascus in the 1980s, Israels Channel 1 television reported Wednesday, citing information it said was included in an archive smuggled out of the USSR.
According to Channel 1s foreign news editor Oren Nahari, the famed Mitrokhin archive, kept by KGB defector Vasily Mitrokhin, revealed that Abbas was a Soviet mole in Damascus in 1983.
The documents obtained by Israeli researchers Isabella Ginor and Gideon Remez purportedly show that Abbas, code-named Krotov (mole), was involved with the Soviets while Mikhail Bogdanov, today Vladimir Putins envoy to the Middle East. was stationed in Damascus.
Bogdanov was caught in a diplomatic tussle earlier this week after trying to broker a summit between Abbas and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Moscow, who both claimed a willingness to meet while decrying the other for allegedly refusing. ..."
A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"
Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.
Utter nonsense, the Russians would be more than happy to arm Hamas
Absolutely. The Russians have been doing such things for decades (arming our and our allies' enemies). Seems this site has been overrun with Russia trolls.
Utter nonsense the Russians would be more than happy to arm Hamas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Doubtful. Hammas are Sunnis and wahabis. Puitin only arms the Shia.
Obama has done a great job arming Hamas and wahabists.Where do you think those millions went 5 years ago to train only a dozen or so men? They didn’t buy swizzle sticks with the money.And they did not buy Russian.
Hamas is Sunni (Muslim Brotherhood style) with some Nationalism and third worldist liberation ideology thrown in.
They are not Salafi/Wahabbi ala ISIS or al-Qaeda.
While Hamas is Sunni (like almost all Palestinian Muslims) they are supported for strategic reasons by the Shia alliance (Iran, Assad, Hezbollah).
It is an odd marriage of convenience that is fragile... Hamas has been trying to get Qatari support... but it still is at the moment clinging to Iran.