Posted on 04/10/2017 5:26:21 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
Shatner thought he saw something on the wing
Air Force One is a call sign, not an aircraft. Any USAF aircraft the president is on is called Air Force One. If the president is on an Army aircraft it is called Army One, Navy is called Navy One, etc. If the President is flying on a civil aircraft or US government owned but non military aircraft the call sign is Executive One. In practice many people refer to the E-4 the President uses as Air Force One.
I have a great story about that from '69 in Chicago Center, wherin I f$%#ed up, and Indy Center tried to hand off A1 to Chicago without a flight plan.
Absolutely. A1 is always under positive control. And unless MARSA was applied, the C-17 was under ATC. The article was sparse on details such as altitude, TCA, etc so it’s impossible to state with certainty what rules applied.
On the approach path to an airport, a commuter jet will appear to be quite fast, while a heavy jet will seem to be nearly floating. But the actual speed of the heavy is easily 20-30 knots faster.
Do you know the clearance they extend for Air Force One? Thousands of feet or miles?
I don't believe approach control uses different minima for them, but they usually freeze surface movement prior to and after arrival. This varies at some locations to avoid horrific disruptions to schedules.
I was flying cross country and looked out the window to see a large aircraft pass directly beneath us about 1000 feet away. I considered what an aircraft would look like a football field away, and it looked about like that to me.
It startled me. I didn’t realize they allow aircraft to pass that close. It isn’t my field of expertise, but it seemed very close. I talked to a retired pilot and he told me it was normal. Felt better hearing it from him.
You’re saying the same thing. Nice to hear it again.
That five mile rule seems it would be hard to maintain in an area similar to the area this event took place in.
I appreciate your comments. Good to know.
Normally, within approach control airspace, lateral airspace is 3 miles, but on approaches to parallel runways it can reduce to as little as 2,000’ if both are established on localizers.
Thank you. I appreciate you sharing your expertise on this.
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