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New DNA From A Neanderthal Bone Reveals Evidence Of A Lost Tribe Of Humans
Business Insider - Science Alert ^ | 7-5-2017 | Mike McRae, ScienceAlert

Posted on 07/05/2017 10:18:36 AM PDT by blam

A femur discovered in a cave in southwestern Germany has provided researchers with firm evidence that a small population of humans left Africa and then vanished, long before the big migration that saw humans populate the globe.

Signs of this mysterious early migration remained in the DNA of the Neanderthal who left the leg bone behind, revealing not only a previous tryst between the two hominin populations, but a sign that Neanderthals were far more diverse than we thought

A team of scientists led by the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History and the University of Tübingen in Germany used the DNA from the femur's mitochondria to determine its relationship with other Neanderthals and modern humans.

Neanderthal and human history is a little complicated. So stick with us.

Neanderthals and humans are regarded as close cousins, either under the same species of Homo sapiens or a closely related species Homo neanderthalis.

Mitochondria — our cells batteries — contain a set of genes separate from the DNA bunched up inside our nucleus. Since mitochondrial DNA mutates in a fairly predictable, conserved fashion, we can measure and map its mutations to get a good idea of when two populations last shared them.

Differences between our mitochondrial genes suggest we last shared a common ancestor a little over 400,000 years ago, though previous studies on nuclear DNA had estimated a split as far back as nearly 800,000 years ago.

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An exhibit shows the life of a neanderthal family in a cave in the new Neanderthal Museum in the northern town of Krapina

(Notice how depictions of Neanderthals are becoming less and less ugly/brutish)

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To: SteveH

Now I have a neanderthal bone too...


21 posted on 07/05/2017 11:05:09 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: bar sin·is·ter

They were probably much more intelligent than your average democrat.


22 posted on 07/05/2017 11:11:04 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: Trillian

True, at least they knew how to survive on their own without government assistance programs and entitlements.


23 posted on 07/05/2017 11:19:22 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: blam

....who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans.....


24 posted on 07/05/2017 11:20:55 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Hillary 2020!)
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To: blam

They wound up in Germany coz Hungary closed its border and wouldn`t let em in.


25 posted on 07/05/2017 11:22:07 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: blam


Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm just a caveman who was unfrozen by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuse me. But I do know this: When my people are defamed and denigrated by some questionable femur examiners, I'm entitled to a 9.7 million dollar settlement!
26 posted on 07/05/2017 11:23:38 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: blam

It isn’t even certain the “Out of Africa” theory is true.


27 posted on 07/05/2017 11:25:32 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: blam
Erectus Walks Amongst Us

Very interesting book that puts forward an alternative Out of Africa theory. Well documented. Taught me more about genetics than the one college course I took. Free, on-line, downloadable as a pdf.

Note: not politically correct. Be warned.
28 posted on 07/05/2017 11:33:01 AM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine, is mine.)
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To: blam

Notice how the Neanderthal depictions look nothing like the evidence of their skulls. For one thing (and only one thing) Neanderthal eye sockets were round and enormous. Ours are about half their size and almost rectangular. Yet, the picture shows the supposed Neanderthals with almost human eyes. BS!


29 posted on 07/05/2017 11:35:14 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: blam



I find all of this stereotyping offensive...
30 posted on 07/05/2017 11:55:37 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: blam

The brow ridges of those aborigines tell it all.

10-15 years ago you couldn’t speak of Neanderthal, heidelbergensis, or Denisovan as being part of the human genome. If it wasn’t sub Saharan African (recent migration) genes it didn’t exist. It became political rather than scientific. Like global warming leftist politics was the only science allowed to be spoken.


31 posted on 07/05/2017 12:34:59 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: blam

That picture...

Does that mean that everyone living in Spain is originally from Heidelberg?


32 posted on 07/05/2017 12:35:24 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Vaquero
" If it wasn’t sub Saharan African (recent migration) genes it didn’t exist. It became political rather than scientific. Like global warming leftist politics was the only science allowed to be spoken."

Yup.

Then there's this:

First Human Ancestor Not African, German Research Team Claims

"The lineage of humans and apes possibly split at a point several hundred thousand years earlier than currently assumed - and in the eastern Mediterranean rather than sub-Saharan Africa, a German research team claim."

I posted this to FR 14 years ago:

Stranger In A New Land

33 posted on 07/05/2017 1:09:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: bar sin·is·ter

just don’t be too hard on your neanderthal ancestors...


34 posted on 07/05/2017 1:40:25 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

No all of them exhibited any dysfunction.


35 posted on 07/05/2017 1:42:40 PM PDT by bar sin·is·ter
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To: Garth Tater

bkmk


36 posted on 07/05/2017 1:58:18 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: SteveH

Hubba.


37 posted on 07/05/2017 2:05:41 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: gundog

She doesn’t move her arms when she dances.

More seriously, there is some evidence from pollen spores found among certain Neanderthal remains that flowers may have been deposited in their burial sites. If that’s true, it would mark the human beginnings of spirituality.


38 posted on 07/05/2017 2:42:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Vaquero
Sub Saharan Africans have 0%.

Well, no.

They have looked a little deeper and found that they have Neanderthal DNA as well. Probably taken there in the migrations back into Africa.

39 posted on 07/05/2017 2:52:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: onedoug

Yeah...I heard about that in high school. And I’m old.


40 posted on 07/05/2017 3:53:29 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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