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Retired Green Beret Warns: “There Could Be A Nuclear Strike Against The United States Coming Soon"
shtfplan.com ^ | July 13, 2016 | Jeremiah Johnson

Posted on 07/15/2017 6:56:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

For approximately the past five years, the Mainstream Media (MSM) and the Obama-administration supported research “think-tanks” for monitoring the North Korean situation have had a field day. They consistently (along with the brain-dead public’s crowds of naysayers) and intentionally understated the capabilities of North Korea. The experts in the field (such as Dr. Peter V. Pry, Admiral Bill Gortney, General Curtis Scapparotti) have not been able to be denied; however, they have been marginalized and made to seem to be “in conflict” with the prevailing, majority “view.” The “tyranny of the majority,” in this case, was needed to accomplish the objectives of the Obama administration: appear to be “strong” on sanctions, and “aloof” with diplomacy, i.e., Barack Hussein Obama II’s not “lowering” himself to deal with North Korea diplomatically.

The true objective of Obama regarding North Korea was to pursue a laissez-faire policy and allow North Korea to progress, becoming a viable threat, as it is today.

All of this was deliberately planned by Obama and his handlers. As far back as April 7, 2015, Admiral Bill Gortney (the former commander of North American Aerospace Defense, a.k.a. NORAD) gave a press conference in which he warned of North Korea’s capabilities with an ICBM, an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile…warned that North Korea could strike the United States with a nuclear warhead on an ICBM…he stated this in 2015. Six months prior, in October of 2014 Admiral Gortney stated that North Korea had nuclear weapons, had miniaturization capabilities, and could place them on missiles that could reach the continental United States.

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To: Right Brother
"Admittedly, I am not well versed on EMP attack consequences, but while I understand the theory, I still don’t see how a single attack could disrupt every square mile of the U.S. It would seem that many such devices would have to be detonated."

I agree. This threat is really just a theory. The tests that I'm aware of have shown minimal effect from EMP. Nukes have already been detonated in space and we are still functioning just fine. I seriously doubt even the US could produce an EMP that would wipe out thousands of square miles of electronics.

21 posted on 07/15/2017 7:34:38 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: usconservative

Alright, Seattle it is.


22 posted on 07/15/2017 7:40:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

NK has of course not much to lose but China has an enormous amount they could lose from such a scenario. How much China controlls NK is up for debate but a nuclear strike on the US would be very uh consequential.


23 posted on 07/15/2017 7:41:03 AM PDT by xp38
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To: ameribbean expat
Because no one has a firmer grasp on the vagaries of a rogue nuclear weapons program than an ex-snakeeater.

First time I saw a program on EMPs was 1979. Have they ever been used? Anywhere? Typically, there is a test run. Think German role in the Spanish Civil War. At least I have a nice Astra 400 to commemorate that one.

I understand the theory behind EMPs, but find it difficult to believe they have not been employed to date, if viable on a large scale.


EMP and other power grid attack weapons were used very successfully in Iraq

24 posted on 07/15/2017 7:42:30 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

The city in the state with the most electoral votes


25 posted on 07/15/2017 7:42:54 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Retired Scientist Warns: “There could be a deadly sun solar storm soon”

Retired Doctor Warns: “There could be a deadly virus epedimic soon”

Retired politician warns: “there could be martial law soon”

I make make up stupid statements too


26 posted on 07/15/2017 7:43:23 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The NK’s won’t launch it. They’d use a surrogate to do it (radical islamist mooselimbs). You gotta’ think, what do the NK’s think would happen to them if they did launch against us? North Korea would be a giant sea of glass....


27 posted on 07/15/2017 7:44:12 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: precisionshootist
We can always go old school.


28 posted on 07/15/2017 7:44:21 AM PDT by xp38
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To: precisionshootist
Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements. The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights,[6] setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link. The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.

The explosion was 900 miles from Hawaii and that was 50 years ago when electronic were thick wires and vacuum tubes. Today we have tiny little wires and micro chips. I'd say there is reason to be concerned about an EMP attack.

29 posted on 07/15/2017 7:47:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Strac6

Thanks for that. Lots of scoffers around about this and if any enemy had any sense. They could win the war without any direct strikes. Simply by carpet explosions of these devices.

The population of this country today could not survive without electricity. Some could, but the vast majority would not.

What would happen is that after a strike, the enemy could sit back and wait and watch. Soon, the cities would fall into chaos-violent looting and riots. The food production would cease. Water systems would fail in those areas. Sewer systems would fail, and the enemy could basically wait it out and we would tear ourselves apart from within. Things like cholera would happen and since the medical systems would be hit hard, the death rate from these alone would cause more deaths than a direct nuke strike on areas.

Oh it would take awhile, but it would happen. Then the enemy could simply move in and take over areas they have infiltrated by our lack of controlling the borders from invasions. See how many coming across the border that are NOT Mexican.


30 posted on 07/15/2017 7:47:44 AM PDT by crz
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To: precisionshootist

#19


31 posted on 07/15/2017 7:48:11 AM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

>>Every time the EMP question comes up, a few on FR post penetrating comments like “bullsh*t” or “nonsense”. If you don’t believe an emp is possible or even a threat I would like to hear some arguments that go beyond this.

No serious person says that EMP is nonsense, because it is real. The BS is the Forstchen “One Second After” scenario where the EMP is 100% effective and ends civilization across the entire American continent.


32 posted on 07/15/2017 7:48:46 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: BenLurkin
Alright, Seattle it is.

Thanks for your sense of humor!

33 posted on 07/15/2017 7:49:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Strac6

If you look at the launch trajectories of the North Korean missile tests, they are geared toward the delivery of high altitude space detonation more consistent with an EMP device than a re entry warhead.

Makes sense if you want to deliver a weapon without having to worry about the development of re entry heat shields, decoys and re entry guidance technology.

The profile the North Koreans are using is also very difficult to intercept with ABM technology unless you get the missile in the boost phase. Once it gets into space , things get more complicated.

North Korea is on an ominous path and they may be a lot closer to a workable weapon system than we realize


34 posted on 07/15/2017 7:52:25 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

I saw some AARs from the Balkan that indicated power grids were shorted with graphite droppings from F-22s. Would be interested to see similar primary source reports from Iraq if EMPs were used.


35 posted on 07/15/2017 7:56:13 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Right Brother
Admittedly, I am not well versed on EMP attack consequences, but while I understand the theory, I still don’t see how a single attack could disrupt every square mile of the U.S. It would seem that many such devices would have to be detonated.

OPERATION STARFISH PRIME

In 1962, long before the idea of a weapon designed to maximize EMP effects was on the horizon, the US carried out a nuclear test in the South Pacific that created some unexpected EMP impact.

Known as the Starfish Prime test, the US exploded a 1.44 megaton bomb 250 miles above the mid-Pacific Ocean to explore the impact of a high-altitude nuclear explosion.

The impact and effects of the detonation were much larger than had been expected. The Starfish Prime test caused electrical damage in Hawaii, almost 1,000 miles away from the detonation point. It knocked out about 300 streetlights, set off numerous burglar alarms and damaged a microwave link.

This was long before the advent of micro-circuits and computer chips that operate on a fraction of the electrical power it takes to knock out a street light from 1,000 miles away.

Today that same detonation would probably knock out most computers and computer operated systems in Hawaii. And that device was not even designed to maximize the EMP effect.

Imagine the damage one or two nuclear weapons designed to maximize the EMP effect would have if detonated over the continental US in strategic locations.

Or just one over the Washington, DC - Boston corridor.

For more detail read up on the Starfish Prime test and the Soviet Project K nuclear tests. The Soviet test with a weapon of only .3 megatons fried an underground cable and set a generating station on fire.

Also the The US EMP Commission report of 2008 is worth researching. The findings are chilling.


36 posted on 07/15/2017 7:56:33 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpers before Trumpin' was cool !)
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To: Right Brother

The grid, other than in very rural areas, is interconnected.


37 posted on 07/15/2017 7:58:34 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Right Brother

Sept 1, 1859. An EMP-like event occurred 93 MILLION miles away and covered the entire earth, stopping all then-primitive communications.


38 posted on 07/15/2017 7:59:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ameribbean expat

Maybe that US Destroyer that got wacked by a freighter not long ago?

Something made it blind and dead in the water.


39 posted on 07/15/2017 8:00:07 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

SHTF Plan is hardcore doom porn. Zero Hedge is softcore doom porn. Been following both for years and cant remember the last time either accurately predicated anything.


40 posted on 07/15/2017 8:01:19 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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