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Trump Vindicated on Wiretaps, Hillary Ukraine Collusion
American Thinker.com ^ | September 20, 2017 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 09/20/2017 4:29:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: treetopsandroofs

In my mind, Trey letting Hillary off the hook...allowing her to testify publicly before his committee.....is his most egregious error.


21 posted on 09/20/2017 5:17:57 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: jjotto

Too bad we don’t have laws on that (smirk).


22 posted on 09/20/2017 5:19:08 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: GOPJ; Jane Long; MinuteGal; HarleyLady27; Grampa Dave; jsanders2001; RoosterRedux; poconopundit; ...
(hat tip Michael Goodwin, NYPost) Recall that, starting last fall, continuing throughout the Trump transition and into the early months of the administration, much of the media was obsessed with the Democrat narrative that “Russia hacked the election and Trump colluded.”

It was a maniacal feeding frenzy of "can you top this" reports naming various Trump associates who had any contacts with Russians. It was guilt by association, all based on leaks of classified secrets that originated either in law enforcement or intelligence agencies, or Obama and his henchmen in the White House.

At least six people from the Trump campaign, including Trump himself, were identified in various reports as having been picked up in intercepted communications by the Susan Rice MO.

Always, the reports insisted that the Americans were not the targets of the surveillance, that they were “incidentally” picked up while talking to targets.....(a Susan Rice specialty).

Those six included Gen. Mike Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, then-Senator (now Attorney General) Jeff Sessions and Jared Kushner.....Manafort.... and Carter Page, briefly a Trump adviser.

23 posted on 09/20/2017 5:30:48 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: Alberta's Child

So the opposition uses all this tech to deliberately compromise those who would investigate them. Sessions knowing he did nothing obliged them? This is a stretch and shows sessions priorities are backwards. This is another reason for him to resign


24 posted on 09/20/2017 5:49:19 AM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: Liz

Jeff Sessions was taped also. Wow. He won’t even defend himself. He is so deep he may be invisible. Will Trump fire
Mueller? will he order Mueller to look into this wiretapping? Will he appoint a Special Counsel? Who knows.

Looks like Trump may be the only clean one here. Everyone else stays out of the discussion. Must be very illegal actions. Purge them all.


25 posted on 09/20/2017 5:49:28 AM PDT by DrDude (Hillary Clinton waddles into the swamp on a daily basis for bathing purposes only!)
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To: ptsal

Perhaps those records have mysteriously surfaced,

I have not seen any comment by PDJT on this revelation.

Only CNN has pushed this story.

Wonder if CNN is trying to bait Trump and he is not biting.
Seems fishy to me.


26 posted on 09/20/2017 5:53:25 AM PDT by streetsmart (I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Kaslin

BTTT


27 posted on 09/20/2017 5:55:27 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: datricker
Sessions knowing he did nothing obliged them?

It's not a question of whether he did anything or not. He didn't recuse himself to cover his own ass. He recused himself because he may be both a witness and a victim in this matter, depending on what legal proceedings may come from this.

This is a stretch and shows sessions priorities are backwards.

What SHOULD his priorities be? What are your priorities here?

28 posted on 09/20/2017 5:57:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Alberta's Child

They were tapping Sessions too ... going back to reports from 2016 it appears they were doing it in the spring and summer of 2016...meaning, by June.


29 posted on 09/20/2017 5:57:59 AM PDT by piasa
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To: anton
"Sessions is a worm. A doormat. Nice guy, but he needs to move to The Villages and get a luxury golf cart."

An Attorney General who encourages the oppression/intimidation of law-abiding citizens, and does nothing about the lawlessness and corruption that is glaringly evident among the DC political class, is NOT a "nice guy."

Such a man is disgustingly inept at best, and a corrupt, sleazy, piece of garbage criminal at worst.

Take your pick. But Jeff Sessions has proven to America that, at heart, he is not a "nice guy."

30 posted on 09/20/2017 5:58:15 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Arm_Bears

Don’t be stupid. Since he was surveilled by the prev admin and one of its leaker’s earliest smear targets he’s got more reason to detest these people than you do.
Unless you are a pothead...


31 posted on 09/20/2017 5:59:44 AM PDT by piasa
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To: silverleaf

“Read the weasel wording. They denied that they ‘had any records’ of wiretapping (aka electronic surveillance)”

“Weasel wording” = Clinton-speak.


32 posted on 09/20/2017 5:59:49 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: piasa
Do you have any evidence that Sessions was under surveillance? I think it's safe to say that his conversations WERE recorded, but I don't know that he was an actual surveillance target.

In both legal and practical terms it's important to distinguish between someone who is a surveillance target and someone whose conversations are recorded because they're talking with someone else who is the actual target.

33 posted on 09/20/2017 6:02:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Alberta's Child

Then he shouldn’t have taken the job. My priorities are irrelevant. He took job knowing he couldn’t perform fully. He is gelded and comprised nice situation Jeff we don’t need a victim for AG. Face it we’ve been had with sessions. Protecting the executive branch from Coup would rank high on my list for Jeff. Not assisting it


34 posted on 09/20/2017 6:06:44 AM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: datricker
Well -- OK. Your opinion is noted.

If everyone whose conversations were caught up in pre-election surveillance by the NSA or CIA (and it's important to remember that Manafort may have been a legitimate surveillance target) was precluded from serving as the U.S. Attorney General, you'd probably have a list of potential AGs with nobody's name on it that had any connection to the campaign.

35 posted on 09/20/2017 6:11:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: DrDude

If there is ever to be any prosecution of these corrupt officials then Sessions will be needed as a witness and victim. Same as Flynn, etc.


36 posted on 09/20/2017 6:13:10 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa

I am not sure what you mean. Sessions may be a witness or Victim! No one knows this occurred until recently. Sessions has shown he will not get involved. He knows the worm rules and how to manipulate the Senate. everyone in power is protected. As AG he has no one to help. He is on his own and realized he is way out of his league. He is most likely complict in the Swamps actions. He is biding his time. He knows he is done when this matter is concluded. No guts No glory.


37 posted on 09/20/2017 6:24:45 AM PDT by DrDude (Hillary Clinton waddles into the swamp on a daily basis for bathing purposes only!)
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To: Alberta's Child

True, it is an important distinction.

No, I don’t think he was an official target, at least not in any FISA request. Even if he was a target I don’t think they’d put it on paper. They were surveilling the Russian ambassador and thus, anyone who conversed with him.
This is where it gets fishy.
They targeted the Russian amb because the press implied, as I recall, that he was more than a typical ambassador - the implication was he was a station chief for all practical purposes. Snarky reporters played it as if he was recruiting. Of course that has to be taken with a grain of salt as the press is biased.
Yet the Kerry State Dept did arrange at least one of the events where Sessions had contact with the ambassador... and this fact was omitted by the leakers and reporters when the smearing of Sessions was hottest in early March 2017.
Then the Dems, who by this time were aware of “Amb Superspy”
had no problem hanging with him at the SOTU speech even though the press was reporting as suspicious anyone who so much as shook his hand... so long as they were not Democrats. Weird.

Question remains, was there really any particular reason to spy more closely than usual on a Russian diplomat? Was surveilling him was just a routine and nonpartisan national security matter that Trump associates just happened to get caught up in...or was the surveillance of the Russian amb unique or unusually intensive because he was a convenient excuse for surveilling or smearing Trump advisors and potential nominees?
Did the State Dept deliberately arrange the event that included the Ambassador and Sessions hoping to get something useful... or was that invitation just a routine courtesy for a candidate’s advisor? If it was just routine why not come out and say so rather than let someone be smeared over it?


38 posted on 09/20/2017 6:50:41 AM PDT by piasa
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To: DrDude

This has been known at least since it was made known the Obama admin unmasked large numbers of people. So no, it’s not recent at all.


39 posted on 09/20/2017 6:59:19 AM PDT by piasa
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To: DrDude
He is most likely complict in the Swamps actions

You have no evidence to support this claim. Funny how the same people claiming Trump is brilliant also have to simultaneously accept that he is a moron when it comes to making nominations.

40 posted on 09/20/2017 7:06:54 AM PDT by piasa
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