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Death of gas and diesel begins as GM announces plans for ‘all-electric future’
WaPo ^ | 0-02-2017 | Peter Holley

Posted on 10/02/2017 1:33:13 PM PDT by NRx

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To: NRx

Look at Puerto Rico.....you want to be stuck in that in an all electric world?


41 posted on 10/02/2017 1:49:59 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: Texas Fossil

“Government Motors has totally lost their mind.”

Must be a democrat running that company.


42 posted on 10/02/2017 1:50:43 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: NRx

one word BANKRUPT.

I give them 3 years and the management blaming Trump and the republican party for his failure.


43 posted on 10/02/2017 1:50:43 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: NRx

1) Battery technology needs a massive break-through

2) The environmental impact of making and disposing of batteries is likely enormous with the environmental impact costs not yet fully allocated into mass electric vehicles.

3) Outside of the handful of major cities in China, the country is predominantly rural and undeveloped (almost third-world). Construction standards are easy to implement.

4) The USA is has a highly developed infrastructure. Adding or retrofitting 220 volt charging stations for multiple cars in every home, condo, apartment, and commercial location will require 50 to 100 years.

5) The current electrical grid is already under strain on hot or extremely cold days. Adding hundreds of thousands of coal burners?

6) Did anyone think to survey what the consumer wanted or is this a case of being forced to eat creamed spinach because “it’s good for you/the planet”?


44 posted on 10/02/2017 1:50:51 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: NRx

No need for coal plants then. Electricity is generated by magic.


45 posted on 10/02/2017 1:51:12 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: AlaskaErik

>Or until gasoline is outlawed.

that is coming.


46 posted on 10/02/2017 1:51:16 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: wbill

In such a scenario, I’d rather go for fuel cells rather than batteries.


47 posted on 10/02/2017 1:51:40 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jarhead9297
Electric is FAR more powerful than combustion in both speed, torque, and power.

That is silly, everything is relative. Maybe they could include a gas or diesel powered home generator to keep them charged.

48 posted on 10/02/2017 1:52:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Jarhead9297

Are you speaking about the actual drive systems efficiency?

Possibly.

The rest listed? Nahhh


49 posted on 10/02/2017 1:52:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Dagnabitt

“But it still has that “looks bad on purpose” design that manufacturers feel EVs require.”

And the BMW i3 takes the cake for butt ugly! It’s worse than that thing called “the Cube!”


50 posted on 10/02/2017 1:52:32 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Assuming of course that there will always be somebody nearby in a Jeep Rubicon to wrench you out of the muck ;-)


51 posted on 10/02/2017 1:52:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: NRx

The customer is always wrong.

Our betters will tell us what we should buy.


52 posted on 10/02/2017 1:53:07 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

“NO GM vehicles for me”

I want a real car or pickup not an upgraded Flintstone mobile.


53 posted on 10/02/2017 1:53:22 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: I Drive Too Fast

When they got limits on imports, then jacked up the price on US cars, and gave their execs a bonus, I swore off GM. That was forty years ago, and I never bought their stuff again.


54 posted on 10/02/2017 1:53:44 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: NRx

Didn’t the Volt fail miserably?


55 posted on 10/02/2017 1:54:23 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: wbill
Yep, this too. If it works, they're geniuses. More likely than not, though? Epic Failure.

I think England said they would be all electric in 20 years, no more gas or diesel after that.

56 posted on 10/02/2017 1:54:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: vette6387

My 2017 F250 diesel is a V8. No issues with the aluminum bed here — much of that chatter comes from GM!


57 posted on 10/02/2017 1:55:00 PM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
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To: itsahoot
Maybe they could include a gas or diesel powered home generator to keep them charged.

Maybe they could include a gas or diesel powered generator integrated into the car, to eliminate the need for heavy and inefficient batteries.

58 posted on 10/02/2017 1:55:49 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Texas Fossil

IKR? ridicules.


59 posted on 10/02/2017 1:55:50 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: chiller
they’re betting the technology advances dramatically by the time they’re also ready to fully convert.

When Milton Hershey started Hershey, PA, he was gambling his hard-earned fortune on his ability to figure out how to make chocolate, which at the time was perhaps the most tightly held secret in the world.

That being said, our entire infrastructure is built around petroleum, and I doubt gasoline and diesel will ever disappear. They work.

60 posted on 10/02/2017 1:56:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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