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Of course he's being pummeled on Twitter over this.
1 posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:25 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And?


2 posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:56 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
What could have been worse than losing 600,00 men in just over four years?

That was 2 percent of the population.

The equivalent to 6 million Americans dying today.

3 posted on 10/31/2017 8:20:58 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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The heck is he doing, pontificating on the civil war? Did he ever catch those White House leakers? I missed the frog march.


4 posted on 10/31/2017 8:21:18 AM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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Kelly’s not the only one who believed it was unnecessary.


5 posted on 10/31/2017 8:27:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The libs are always saying that negotiation is better than war. They should be agreeing with Kelly.


6 posted on 10/31/2017 8:27:18 AM PDT by djpg (..)
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so......we should have agreed to let black people remain in a LITTLE BIT of slavery?


7 posted on 10/31/2017 8:28:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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IMO, compromise is a slow surrender!
Lee?

Lee was right!

He missed a coupla good opportunities they say: He failed to continue on to the swamp @ Mannasas, and immediately after Gettysburg he failed again to go to the swamp, even though he was then in between the yankke army and lincoln.

So they say...but NOT the current THEY!

Semper TRUMP.45 If We Can Keep Him!
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8 posted on 10/31/2017 8:29:06 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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I see nothing wrong with his comments. I’m sure there were men and leaders during the Civil War who asked themselves “how did we let it come to this?” as they surveyed the carnage.


9 posted on 10/31/2017 8:35:09 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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A friend was telling me the other day that his West Point graduate bass was espousing this the other day as how they are taught the Civil War at West Point.

In the way he explained it, it made a lot of sense.


10 posted on 10/31/2017 8:39:41 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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Unless Trump told Kelly to go out and create a distraction, it’s hard to see the utility in this statement.


11 posted on 10/31/2017 8:40:18 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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If only we had a time machine to take us back to show leaders at the time what horror their decision to go to war caused.

If Kaiser Wilhelm could have been told WWI would last 4 years, killing millions and he would be deposed at the end.

If leaders in the pre-US Civil War could know the cost in lives and devastation to the South, maybe they would have agreed to free the slaves and compensate the then slave owners with a federal payment funded by national and import taxes. Maybe the newly freed could have been protected with laws allowing them work and education to integrate them into the national society.


12 posted on 10/31/2017 8:42:09 AM PDT by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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Compromise=negotiation=artofthedeal


13 posted on 10/31/2017 8:42:59 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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Once South Carolina declared its independence, the Federal government had no reason to maintain an armed force at Fort Sumter.

A small compromise to prevent a war. Relinquish it.


16 posted on 10/31/2017 8:49:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Wonder if the South would have freed the slaves if the North would have taken half of them


17 posted on 10/31/2017 8:50:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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The US military is understandably not keen on giving up military bases it owns outright. Fort Sumter was literally a US-military-made island (artificial), and occupants were minding their own business, not interfering with anything else in the area - and did not take kindly to getting shelled by the nearby country. “Compromise” favoring peace would have required nothing more than the CSA leave the fort alone.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 8:50:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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The Republicans offered a great deal of compromise, but the Democrats who ran the Slave Power didn’t want any part of it.


30 posted on 10/31/2017 9:24:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Not all slave states were in the south. NY was a slave state. The southern states were making trade deals with our mortal enemy Great Britian. GB was against slavery, but ran the slave trade.

What the south was doing was unconstitutional. No state is to enter a trade agreement. Especially, with a hostile nation. Let’s say North Dakota decided to trade Bakken oil for North Korean workers.

The compromise would have been something like this: Stop trading with our enemies or we will make you stop.

The Southern States told the Northern States to go fornicate themselves. The Northern States carried through on thier promise.


32 posted on 10/31/2017 9:27:00 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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“Lack of compromise led to the Civil War”?

No, it was too much compromise that led to the Civil War, starting in the 1820’s.

The seeds were sown by the Missouri Compromise, The Compromise of 1850, and the Kansas Nebraska Act. And by Supreme Court “compromise” rulings like Dred Scott.

Compromise and indecisiveness also led to the demise of the Whig Party, and the start of the Republican Party, which is now on a suicide watch as it emulates the Whig Party on modern issues where it constantly “reaches across the aisle” to help the democrat socialists enact anti-American laws and destroy American culture.

16 Compromising Republicans were tossed aside by the American voters for a non-compromising Donald Trump who actually stood for principles that previously had no defenders.

Compromise, General?
Tell that to the democrats.


33 posted on 10/31/2017 9:28:58 AM PDT by oldbill
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Even back then they knew that compromising with bad policy is like adding a little sewage to0 your drinking water.


34 posted on 10/31/2017 9:30:05 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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John Kelly correctly identifies political failure as the reason for the Civil War. Slavery was a dying institution when the Constitution was approved, and was later revived by the invention of the cotton gin. Never the less, Britain abolished slavery in 1833.

Military involvement came after abolitionists and planters and their political allies failed to identify from British precedent those compromises outside inflexible ideologies that would have brought peaceful agreement. Through their dereliction of duty these fire-eating miscreants of both persuasions stumbled us into the Civil War.

The bloodiest conflict our country ever endured resolved the issues of states’ rights, secession, and slavery, and relied exclusively on military actions. These military actions were fought out to the last measure of human endurance. Great men like Grant, Sherman, Lee, and Johnston, and their soldiers and sailors resolved what should have been political issues. Monuments North and South testify to the sincerity of those few who endured the tragedy of that struggle.

Now similar mediocre intellectual dwarfs would repudiate this history.

38 posted on 10/31/2017 9:51:58 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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