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Boston Globe: Gun Confiscation is Needed… and Impossible
Ammoland ^ | 24 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/28/2017 7:42:34 AM PST by marktwain

The Boston Globe recent ran an article where it acknowledged the obvious: the long term goal of the gun control movement (recently relabeled as  “gun safety”), is to confiscate a large number of Americans' firearms.

The Globe has almost everything else wrong in its article, but they are honest about the desire for gun confiscation.

From the bostonglobe.com:

In other words, the proposals aren’t just difficult to enact in the current political climate; their practical effects would also be quite limited. On occasion, though, leading Democrats will make oblique reference to a more sweeping policy change: seizing a huge number of weapons from law-abiding citizens.

At a New Hampshire forum in the fall of 2015, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton spoke approvingly of an Australian gun buyback program that collected more than 650,000 weapons — a buyback that, she neglected to mention, was compulsory.

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The logic of gun control lies, at bottom, in substantially reducing the number of deadly weapons on the street — and confiscation is far and away the most effective approach. Is there any conceivable turn of events in our politics that could make confiscation happen? And what would a mass seizure look like?

Then the article goes on to praise the imposition of extreme restrictions on gun ownership in Australia, and to put forward claims that the restrictions “worked”.  Those claims are easily countered. That is not what we are dealing with here.

Ultimately, the Globe admits that massive gun confiscation is not possible, at least now, at least not directly.

Why are so many people on the political left willing to consider confiscating guns, in direct violation of the Constitution, with the obvious high costs, high risks, and low chance of success? Here are some

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To: marktwain

“If you think the 3 percenters will passively wait for confiscators to come to their door, once hostilities start, you are not looking at a reasonable reality.”


Here’s the thing: right now, most criminals are pretty stupid. Pass a confiscation order camoflaged as a law, and you will make criminals of some of the smartest and most skilled people in the nation. I think that the gun-grabbers understand that it doesn’t take a lot of them - 1% of 1% (one in 10,000) - to make life very short for most of them and their sympathizers/supporters. The ranks of Leftist politicians, Leftist police chiefs, Leftist media people and Leftist academics would decline precipitously in a very short time, when push came to shove with a very smart, talented, equipped and motivated enemy...that they, themselves, would have created.

Smart gun-grabbers would be wise to STFU, lest they get on someone’s list before a confiscation order...because afterwards, such lists won’t get revised except to note those who had given up the ghost.


41 posted on 11/28/2017 8:41:35 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: marktwain

You sir are exactly correct.

The large majority will knuckle under like the sheep that they are and comply with the jack boots and hand over their 2nd amendment rights. “I’m not gonna lose my family and freedom over a couple handguns.”
WHATEVER.......

However There will be 1-3% that will damn the torpedos and make war on the very people who would take away our constitutional rights. Real Americans in my book. If the govt wants a war, they will attempt to actually confiscate our firearms.


42 posted on 11/28/2017 8:46:12 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Ancesthntr
There was a town that made it illegal a few years ago to park a motor home or camper in the front of house. They sent an employee to write $500 tickets. The first night the tickets were written, the politicians who voted for the new law had their windshields smashed in their own driveways. The law was rescinded and so were the tickets the next day.

That may be the type of preliminary warning some gun grabbers will need.

43 posted on 11/28/2017 9:12:40 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: marktwain

Why excerpt the article? I can’t go to that domain here at work. Oh, well, bookmark for later.


44 posted on 11/28/2017 9:14:50 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ( DJT won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Civil war before we get more?)
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To: OttawaFreeper

A German Orthodox Jew would fit as well as the Indian in that poster.


45 posted on 11/28/2017 9:27:15 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Ammoland does have an email list as well; frequent and good info.


46 posted on 11/28/2017 9:31:12 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: marktwain

People will ask: “So, you’ll shoot the police that you say you support if they try to take your guns?”

No need to. You disable their cars with gunfire. It can be done from the woods beside every road in America. One shot, one disabled police car and no unneeded deaths or injuries to potentially friendly police. I don’t know about where you live, but where I do, no police cars = no police, the area patrolled is too big for foot cops. A bullet through a radiator takes that car off the road for a day or more. A damaged engine block? even longer.
Your county or city cops with 20,30,50 cars all in with radiators shot out or damaged engines? You are now out of confiscators.

I’d still bet only the 10% of cops that are “ true believers” would take on the suicide mission of confiscating guns from citizens anyway.


47 posted on 11/28/2017 9:47:27 AM PST by Frank_Symptoms
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To: Sasparilla

yes, I believe that is true.

they would be required to use forced labor on day 2


48 posted on 11/28/2017 9:52:36 AM PST by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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To: Kenton

The American Revolution was a civil war.

Definition of civil war:

noun
a war between citizens of the same country.

There have been LOTS of civil wars in history; the American Civil War (1861 - 1865) to which you are referring, the English Civil War (1642–1651), the Russian Civil War (1917 - 1922), etc. So no, I did not get my wars mixed up as I was using the term “civil war” generically and not referring to a specific war.

My comment was intended to show that such attempts to confiscate firearms will provoke a civil war and that Americans have already successfully fought against those that would take away our firearms.


49 posted on 11/28/2017 9:58:15 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: marktwain
Boston Globe: Gun Confiscation is Needed

Boston!

How about pressure cooker confiscation?

(idiots)

50 posted on 11/28/2017 10:02:43 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: Betty Jane

“The first night the tickets were written, the politicians who voted for the new law had their windshields smashed in their own driveways. The law was rescinded and so were the tickets the next day.”


Check this out:

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1604


51 posted on 11/28/2017 12:24:33 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Frank_Symptoms

“our county or city cops with 20,30,50 cars all in with radiators shot out or damaged engines? You are now out of confiscators.”


Or, if you shoot them through the gas tanks when there are no police in them (so as to avoid casualties), then you can destroy the entire car. Most decent center-fire rifles will penetrate, and once some number of gallons have spilled out, hit the gas with tracers or else just try to create sparks with FMJs or steel-core ammo. This would seem to be a more effective result than having the car out of commission for a day or two.


52 posted on 11/28/2017 12:28:17 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: marktwain

“Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est” —� Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4 bce to 65 ce)


53 posted on 11/28/2017 12:41:51 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: marktwain
In that Progressive universe you mentioned, they all get to start with a clean slate to build their ideal societies, which is why no progressive society ever works out as they imagine. You don't start from tabula rasa. You start, in this case, with a population that (1) enjoys shooting, and (2) owns more guns than there are people. From there to a disarmed society is not going to be something they'll be able to legislate and then farm out. In post-revolutionary Russia or Nazi Germany, sure. Completely different starting points.

Social visionaries don't like to be reminded that there's real dirt under their feet and that the pawns they're counting on are real people who push back. These are "revolutionaries" who apparently think that once they pass a law everyone will fall in line. That is a blind spot of shocking proportion. If the Australian experience is any guide we won't see any eruption of violence, we'll see an eruption of civil disobedience and gun owners who go underground. Some of this is already taking place in California. It doesn't turn out to be liberal fantasy-land because it never was.

54 posted on 11/28/2017 12:55:25 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: elcid1970

I further predict advanced cases of lead poisoning amongst the ruling classes.


55 posted on 11/28/2017 1:40:22 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: Ancesthntr

One individual with a rifle can alter the course of history.


56 posted on 11/28/2017 1:49:23 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Not every weapon is a firearm. Some if us can be very creative. Artists conducting a symphony of pain.


57 posted on 11/28/2017 1:54:07 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: Billthedrill

It will resemble “Irish democracy,” but with a decidedly nasty edge.


58 posted on 11/28/2017 1:56:25 PM PST by Noumenon ("progressive” describes the progression of a terminal disease.)
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To: Blue Jays

"...FMCDH..."


The keyboard warrior stuff gets somewhat tiresome, too. Everything can’t be a shootout.
FReepers often have husbands/wives/boyfriends/girlfriends/children/families/pets/homes/jobs to consider.

Were some insane mass-confiscation plan ever to happen, most of it would occur when we are WORKING or otherise not at home.
We would just return to an overturned house where the authorities have already advised the press about ”weapons, child porn, drugs, and ISIS literature” discovered via an allegedly lengthy investigation.


59 posted on 11/28/2017 4:17:25 PM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: taxcontrol

Thanks for the history lesson, I stand corrected.


60 posted on 11/29/2017 1:17:56 PM PST by Kenton
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