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Don’t abandon the Kurds to the ‘mercies’ of Turkey’s tyrant
The New York Post ^ | January 22, 2018 | 7:13pm | Ralph Peters

Posted on 01/23/2018 4:22:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil

The United States has been the protector and ally of the Kurds for a quarter-century. And the Kurds have proven to be, man-for-man and woman-for-woman, the best fighters in the region.

Without Kurdish boots on the ground, we would not have made the sweeping progress achieved against the Islamic State caliphate.

Now, with ISIS crushed (but still wriggling and snapping), we’re turning our backs on our Kurdish allies in Syria as they’re attacked by a NATO ally gone rogue — Turkey, which is led by an Islamist strongman, the odious “President” Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Kurds have been butchered en masse, denied fundamental rights, imprisoned, tortured, raped, cheated and scapegoated.

After letting the Kurds down at Versailles a century ago, when we acquiesced to denying them a state, we finally stepped up to do the right thing in the wake of Desert Storm — after Saddam Hussein had used poison gas on Iraq’s Kurdish population. In return, the Kurds have fought bravely beside us in a succession of conflicts.

Outside of Israel, no one has done more to support our priorities — especially in combatting Islamist terrorists.

Now we’re on the verge of permitting another slaughter of Kurds. To please Turkey.

We should be on the side of the underdogs, not of the rabid dogs.

As Turkish tanks roll into Syria’s Afrin Province to kill Kurds, it’s time to recognize that Turkey’s no longer an ally and no longer belongs in NATO (Erdogan is even buying Russian air-defense systems). Turkey’s dictator-in-all-but-name has gutted democracy, imprisoned tens of thousands on false charges, suppressed the free media, rigged the courts, backed Islamist hardliners in Syria — and, for political advantage, reignited a conflict that had gone quiet with Turkey’s internal Kurdish population.

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KEYWORDS: attack; kurds; syria; turkey
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This MUST be Stopped.

I'm asking you to contact anyone you think might be persuaded help and apply more pressure on Turkey.

May God Bless my Syrian Kurd friends and all Freedom Lovers who have fought alongside them to end the Great Evil called ISIS.

God Bless the United States of America.

1 posted on 01/23/2018 4:22:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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Syria Ping
2 posted on 01/23/2018 4:23:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

The Kurds have been trustworthy allies for the U.S.

I think the movie 12 Strong is about our working relationship with
the Kurds.

BTW, it’s a great movie.


3 posted on 01/23/2018 4:27:29 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: tennmountainman

Have not seen it, but will look into that.

These are good people. Turkish leadership are not.


4 posted on 01/23/2018 4:30:16 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: tennmountainman

Hate to post and run away. Got call from my 92 years old father, he needs me.

Later.


5 posted on 01/23/2018 4:32:59 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Really? How many more young Americans do you want killed and maimed if the US is expected to continually immerse itself in the Mideast quagmire. George Washington warned against such “foreign entanglements”.


6 posted on 01/23/2018 4:40:36 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I wish the Kurds the best of luck. Here is what I dont want— our money and lives for them. THEY chose to illegally seize land from Syria on the Turkish border, We didn’t because it violates international law. It is purely a matter between the actual parties, We have 5 combat unit combat ready out of 58!!! All 5 should seal our border with Mexico, The other units should get combat ready or be terminated!! The last thing on the American agenda should be the Kurds!!


7 posted on 01/23/2018 4:45:45 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: Texas Fossil

Turkey is a lost cause. We have a disgusting history of abandoning indigenous allies and leaving them to their own devices. Especially those associated with a certain three-letter agency. I do pray for the Kurds, and I pray America will do right by them. I also pray that our troops depart from that evil region forever.

Erdogan has enabled ISIS from the beginning, and Russia has been happy to see its Chechen friends head south for the slaughter. Iran plays everyone against each other and the Saudi’s continue to gaze at navels.

Either way, this is the third time we’ve burned the Kurds, but there is a glimmer of hope. Like Chesty Puller said,“They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can’t get away from us now!”

The Kurds have proven very resilient and much more resourceful than their enemies. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi and Turkey are typical Muslim regimes, but the Kurds are a self-sufficient independent people who are dying for freedom. If Texans lived in the Middle East, they’d be Kurds.


8 posted on 01/23/2018 4:50:55 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: tennmountainman
I think the movie 12 Strong is about our working relationship with the Kurds.

Close, but no cigar, 12 Strong is about a select group of Special Forces in Afghanistan and their operations against the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

However in our Afghan campaign, Turkey was aligned with the enemy refusing us supply transportation rights over Turkish territory, while Russia did allow us supply transportation rights across Russian Territory.

9 posted on 01/23/2018 4:51:35 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Turkish leadership are not."

Hell NO! They went islamofascist with their "military coup"

Killing civilians!

Remember this...Gassing of Kurds.

Why are we not defending these people???

10 posted on 01/23/2018 4:55:50 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Texas Fossil
Tough situation...

Yellow: Kurds
Grey: Turkey
Purple: Turk-aligned forces
Orange: Syria forces
Green: Non-Kurd rebels

11 posted on 01/23/2018 5:14:37 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: antidisestablishment

Make a deal with the Iraqis to establish a base in northern Iraq and defend the Kurds Maybe we should just make it in Kurdish territory.


12 posted on 01/23/2018 5:42:59 PM PST by Scottie2000 (Comey Charlotte)
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To: Scottie2000

One of the only unifying traits of Iraqis is their hatred of Kurds. ISIS was originally constituted from the remnants of Saddam’s armed forces.

Their history completely upends the “Palestinian” myth. The Kurds have maintained a stateless existence in their homelands since the early 1900s when Brits divided the region without regard to ethnicity. They have maintained their culture despite being systematically disenfranchised and abused in three separate countries. They were willing agents of the Armenian genocide and factions have allied themselves with communists and terrorists; however, they actually admitted fault in the genocide, unlike Turkey, and have sheltered minority Christian and Druze from ISIS attacks.

Turkey’s entrance in the actual hostilities was an attack on Kurds in northern Iraq, and they almost took out some of our operators at the same time. “Oops, my bad,” was good enough for Obama and that set the tone for the next few years. The Kurds routed ISIS from their territory and that has everyone in the region terrified. They want their land, their oil, and sovereignty.

Every part of that is anathema to Iraqis, Turks, Syria, Iran and the House of Saud. We work alongside the Kurds, but have no formal acknowledgement of terms from an international standpoint. We are acting like the French during the American Revolution. It’s a sad commentary on our foreign policy, but it’s another intractable foreign entanglement. We need to get our troops out.


13 posted on 01/23/2018 6:31:32 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: mrsmith

Did they think they would run completely over the SDF by now?

They have not. They are defiant and amazing soldiers. This is close to being an amplified version of Kobani. But US is unable to deliver the air support necessary to repel this. If Russia is totally out, we might make Erdogan a threat he might back away from.

We shall soon see.

Don’t give up on my Syrian Kurd friends.


14 posted on 01/23/2018 7:10:18 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: allendale

How many of our soldiers have died in Syria? To my knowledge, one. In a vehicle roll-over. I’t possible there were more, but I have not heard a word about it if there was more. At the point of Raqqa, there was a single Coalition fatality.

Many Kurds, Syriacs, Arabs and Ezidi have died. And a lot of ISIS animals have been killed.


15 posted on 01/23/2018 7:13:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: raiderboy

Who made you General? Who’s army did you serve in?


16 posted on 01/23/2018 7:14:39 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: antidisestablishment

Well said sir. I’ve been involved in this for 3-1/2 years. Know some of them well. Respect them. Trust them.

I would not hesitate to accept the ones I know, for neighbors here in TX.


17 posted on 01/23/2018 7:18:34 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: mrsmith

Source on your map is an Assad mouthpiece. At times they are truthful, other times when it benefits them, they are not.


18 posted on 01/23/2018 7:21:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Scottie2000

I actually think that was the plan.


19 posted on 01/23/2018 7:22:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

No, that is the situation. Just the most useful map.

The worst news for the Kurds there is that there is no news coverage. Best chance is to hold off Turkey and have atrocities on the West’s TVs.

Russia (and China) likes having Turkey fight a US ally, but Syria knows Turkey is liable to stay. They’ve annexed parts of NW Syria before.
It’s a tough situation for the Kurds in Afrin. Doesn’t knock them to point that out.


20 posted on 01/23/2018 8:00:39 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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