Posted on 02/28/2018 3:58:20 PM PST by Trump20162020
“How can 18 yo’s serve in the military?”
Needs to be exclusions for Military personnel and Law Enforcement personnel.
Except for imminent domain, and arguably healthcare, no free person or business is obligated to buy or sell any good or service to another.
Or even bake a cake to celebrate a repugnant belief system...
Soldiers don’t buy their guns silly, they are issued them!
They don't buy their guns, our betters issue them to them.
Some people do here.
Only if they raise the voting age to match!
Damnit, and their tequila was cheap...
Or join the military
so, you think your nineteen year old daughter who lives in the city alone is too young to have a gun by her bed to protect herself with?
Why don’t you just move to North Korea?
trolls out tonight.
Oh and PLEASE stay in Californa.
They have the say so...
I’m pretty certain Walmart just lost
55.5 million customers....
Too many fives...
Didn’t know Walmart still sold firearms.
Ummmm, that’s not at *all* what happened. The 86 ban was tacked on to FOPA at the last minute by a Dem voice vote and not proposed by Reagan. Since 1934 there have only ever been two crimes committed with legally held full auto that I’m aware of - and both were crooked cops with department guns.
My Father gave me a .22 Bolt Action Rifle and a Single Shot .410 Shotgun when I was eight years old.
I kept them in the Bedroom Closet right next to my Older Brother’s Pistols and Rifles.
Oh yeah, in the late 50’s my Older Brother took his .22 Rifle to School because he was in the Shooting Club, and that was when we lived in New York.
We all know what has changed and who is responsible for it. It has nothing to do with Firearms.
I agree with most of that. Michael Carneal (the Heath High School shooter, 20 years ago) said after the shooting that he had fantasies about murdering classmates* as far back as when he was in kindergarten! What sane person believes such a twisted mind** will not eventually find a way to carry out the evil that has taken root in him / her, no matter what means we try to prevent access to??
*I assume Carneal meant actually killing classmates, and not using a cap gun, which, curiously, many of us over 50 or so had in our youth, and despite many a session of “cowboys and Indians”, none of us ever dreamt of shooting a real gun at anyone.
**Later on, in my college years, I had a former roommate admit to gory nightmares in which he knifed his family to death. Strangely, he said he had no real conscious animus toward said family, and he never showed any violence or misbehavior such as Cruz (in FL) toward anyone I know of. I suggested counselling, but lost contact with him shortly thereafter — all I really know is he never showed up in the news...
Who in this “information age” is so naïve to believe a would be killer denied a gun will be prevented from causing many deaths, if that is what they are determined to do? Again I emphasize that in the case(s) of these school shootings, these are NOT individuals who suddenly snapped.
It seems to me that a LOT more could be done in the way of having older students and / or those demonstrated to have good “responsibility skills” act as leaders, or “big brothers and sisters” to search out and befriend kids who are shunned, bullied, or feel isolated. And I suspect a lot more can be done to teach kids inner strength and coping skills.
I also suggest that the NRA propose a program in which they or even local gun clubs partner with local Law Enforcement to, instead of denying all sales of firearms (or even specific firearms), to work with and screen potential young buyers, review backgrounds (publicly available info.), teach gun safety, etc. Young buyers would have to complete a NRA “program” and screening which would take 4 weeks, before being able to purchase a firearm or ammo. (Subsequent firearms repurchases would get a 2-session / week NRA “review”.) Records of approved buyers, beyond what are normally kept now, anyway, would be deleted after 1 year. Report problematic kids to LE, and make public inaction on such if it occurs. (Only the inaction and the LE responsible for it to be made public; young citizens’ names would be “redacted” in public statements by the NRA. This could be win-win: It gives the NRA a means to make overtures to more potential new members, while the NRA provides some of the “hours” and extended contact with buyers that local LE may not have. (I am thinking this up at 4:30 a.m., so it probably needs some refinement!)
Last... I wonder if current depictions of “super heroes”, super villains, etc., in movies and games, may be a factor in modern school shootings? “Back in the day”, I think teenage kids easily recognized “non-reality”. Today’s characters, take “The Hulk”, or “Thor”, for example, are more “fantastic” than ever, but are also through CGI, etc., made more “real”, or believable. There also is quite the trend of many “super heroes” depicted as misunderstood “nerds” or outcasts, who then redeem themselves through violence. The characters are exaggerated, but are still... too real, perhaps? Can this have a cumulative subconscious effect on our kids? Most of us already believe the level of violence and gore in many modern electronic games has some effect, but I am going beyond that...
How old is the average College student? I don't trust them with the vote......
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“How can 18 yo’s serve in the military?”
Needs to be exclusions for Military personnel and Law Enforcement personnel.
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Why is that? What catapults GOVT ‘wants’ to that above of the Citizen’s Rights\needs?
Aside from those specifically enumerated authorities, govt should NEVER be allowed ‘exclusions\exemptions’
Straw purchases are illegal and can be prosecuted.
The 4473 form asks if you are purchasing the gun for someone else and knowing lying when you fill it out is falsifying a federal document.
“If you answer “yes” to this question, the sale cannot proceed. If you answer “no,” you are stating under penalty of law that you are not buying the firearm for someone else, other than as a bona fide gift. Answering “yes” when the truthful answer is “no” is a federal felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.”
https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/7/buying-and-selling-firearms-part-6-straw-purchases/
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