Trump orders top-to-bottom review of welfare programs

The Washington Times ^ | April 10, 2018 | Dave Boyer

[Pride in the USA]

This is welcome news!

[jdsteel]

He should just say that we are going to end welfare as we know it. Then stand back to avoid the splatter from exploding liberal heads.

[Fedora]

The review should also look for cases of misuse of funds.

[spintreebob]

I will be curious who they interview.
Ivy League PHD Thesis? Those who used to be on welfare and got off?
Those who previously worked and are now on welfare?
Those who are 2d and 3d generation welfare?
Social workers in the trenches?
Management of social work agencies who are all about empire building?
Data Warehouse people like me who crunch the numbers and can see the data from many perspectives?

Or
IBM Watson Truven Health?
DeLoitte-Touche?
Kaiser Health News?
UHC-Optum?
EPIc? Cerner?
Other IT healthcare firms?
Associations of all those professionals?

[spintreebob]

Based on the news today, Trump is turning out to be a great negotiator. There will be no trade war.

But who is more motivated? Immigrants (legal and illegal?)
Or native born Americans who have not yet shown any motivation?

[Uncle Sham]

He should allow states and cities to create economic development zones where the minimum wage is ZERO. These zones could have tax incentives thrown in and would easily replace welfare as a training ground, income source, and a first-step opportunity to leave poverty behind. It would turn leeches into contributors as well as help build self-pride in those who end up working. Why should government pay the bills when we can have private enterprise do most of the work?

[i_robot73]

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Goal #1: Stop rewarding people for popping out babies.
Goal #2: Only basic staple food can be bought with food stamps. No cash back. Ever
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Solution: Restore 5th, 9th, 10th & 13th A. Rights by terminating any/all welfare.

[HighSierra5]

Random? Mandatory !

[spintreebob]

The study needs to clarify two(or more) tracks:

Short range. What can be done now with results in 1 to 24 months?

Long range. Many of the problems orginated generations ago. Although some progress can be made in the short run, real progress will take at least a generation. For example, it not unusual for kids starting in Kindergarten to be given psycho drugs, especially boys who act like boys. Millions in one school. Hundreds of millions in a state ... all on the taxpayer’s Medicaid dollar. Even the kids not on Aderall are taught that drugs are the solution to any and all problems. The kids on drugs are zombies who never learn self-discipline, self-control. Then they become teens and adults and we wonder why they are like they are.

What if the billions nationwide were shifted from drugs to drill sergeants (ex Marines?) who teach kids self-control, self-discipline and when to turn it on and when to turn it off? One million shifted from drugs could mean 10 Drill Sergeants at $100,000 each.... or 20 at 50K each.

This is the kind of thing the committee should consider.

[Moonman62]

Goal #1: Stop rewarding people for popping out babies.

...

Won’t that hurt the Democrats?

[ridesthemiles]

I like the idea of only giving out boxes of food instead of EBT cards, etc. Let them go to the local Food Banks on their assigned day & get FOOD....not a license to steal.

Using EBT cards at Casinos & strip joints is really rotten.

[CincyRichieRich]

Early retirements coming up?

[EdnaMode]

That’s perfect.

[SkyPilot]

Just a few of these programs:

Universal Program for Subsidized Phones for Low Income (ObamaPhones), EBT Food Stamps (SNAP), ObamaCare Subsidies for Immigrants, ObamaCare Subsidies for Low Income, Medicaid, Section 8 Housing, Unemployment, TANF Welfare, Energy Assistance, EITC, Foster Care Title IV, Old Age Assistance, AFDC, General Assistance Cash, Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Assets for Independence, School Lunch Assistance, General Assistance to Native Americans, Child Care Development Fund, SCHiP State Supplemental Health Insurance Program, Consolidated Health Centers, Foster Care Grants, Consolidated Community Health, Maternal and Child Health Assistance Fund, Healthy Start, School Lunch Block Grant, Job Assistance, Job Training, Minority Job Assistance, Job Relocation, Woman Infants and Children's Program, Nutrition for the Elderly, Summer Program, Summer Jobs Program, Minority Summer Jobs, Hispanic Jobs Program, African-American Jobs Program, Commodity Supplemental Food Program, Special Milk Program, Needy Families, Farmer's Market Nutrition Program, Public Housing, Low Income Energy Assistance, Migrant Education, Title One Grants to Local Education Authorities, Education for Homeless Children and Youth, Even Start, Job Corps, Social Security Disability, Social Security for Refugees, Social Security for Humanitarian Cases, Social Security for Asylum, Health Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Grants, TANF Child Care, Empowerment Zones for Minority Communities, Urban Development Action Grants, and Family Planning (abortion).

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks jazusamo.

• Dem who opposed welfare fraud measure indicted -- for food stamp fraud
• Wife Of DC Lawyer Worth $1.5 Million Arrested For Taking Food Stamps, Welfare
• Millionaires, Drug Dealers And Senators Caught Using Food Stamps Illegally This Year
• Congress set to battle over food stamps work requirement...
• Food stamp rolls plummet in states that restore work requirements
• 85% drop in food stamp recipients in AL counties where work requirement restarted
• Maine Drops 9,000 From Food Stamps After Refusal To Comply With Work Requirements
• Missouri Just Forced All Welfare Recipients to GET A JOB -- Here Are The Results:
• Thousands..62%..Dropped From GA Food Stamp Program After Work Mandate
• Leaked: Trump's Next Executive Order -- "Eliminate the Welfare Magnet Driving Illegal Immigration
• Half of immigrant-led households collect welfare as admission rules go unenforced
• Fear of deportation drives people off food stamps in US
• Muslim Woman Caught Buying Soda With Food Stamps To Sell In Her Store
• Defiant (Muslim) Lovejoy grocer's bail set at $2 million for food stamp fraud
• Muslims mis-using foodstamps in America.
• Following arraignment on food stamp fraud, Muslim immigrant's wife and daughter flip the bird
• Feds detail alleged $16M food stamp fraud
• (Video) Furious Woman Filmed Destroying a Convenience Store When Her Welfare Card is Rejected
• EBT Card Shutdown Apocalypse -- Fatopotamus gets stupid after Card Gets Rejected!
• Soft Drinks No. 1 Purchase by Food Stamp Recipients; $357,700,000 From 1 Grocery Chain
• USDA Study Reveals What Food Stamps Are Really Spent On (10% of Budget on Soft Drinks alone!)
• In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda
• Food Stamp Usage Has Fallen Every Month of Trump Presidency [MAGA!]
• Walker asks Trump to allow Wisconsin to drug test food stamp recipients

[MagUSNRET]

The mandatory is assumed. The random means whenever we want one, not predictably once a month.

[jazusamo]

Thanks...What a monster and that isn’t all of it.

[upchuck]

“President Trump endorses reforms that ensure those in need receive assistance, while eliminating the economic stagnation that has resulted from long-term government dependence.”

Amen!

Way past high time to control/eliminate food stamp abuse. Also 'free' cell phone abuse. I talk to folks frequently that readily admit their family has more than one cell phone.

We pay for that abuse. It's like the abusers are sticking their hand in our pocket. Must be controlled.

[upchuck]

Goal #2: Only basic staple food can be bought with food stamps. No cash back. Ever

If a person on food stamps gets cash back, abuse is happening. The food stamps are not physical stamps. The food stamp amount is stored on an Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) card, like a debit card. When the user buys food the amount is debited from their card immediately.

I agree with you about only staple food being eligible, but who determines the definition of basic staple food?

[upchuck]

Thanks for that list. Massive, isn't it?

Some abbreviations explanation:

EBT - Electronic Benefits Transfer card. A card like a debit card. It holds the users amount of benefits for food stamps, etc.

SNAP - Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the fancy name for food stamps. The key word is supplemental, even though most beneficiaries treat food stamps as their main source of food.

TANF - Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. This used to be called AFDC, Aid For Dependent Children. In 1996, AFDC was superseded by TANF. Same idea, different name.