Posted on 06/08/2018 6:09:42 PM PDT by huckfillary
There are some contrary examples, a drug addict may be in control of their thoughts 90% of the time, and thus have opportunities to seek help. But even then there has to be a recognition that disease can control the mind.
Altruism doesn’t exist. It’s a fiction people use feel better about themselves.
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I guess you’ve never loved anybody.
Socialized medicine promotes pill pushing because pill pushing costs hundreds of times less than professional counseling.
That would be fake news from the society pages. The reality in the world of the common folk is that most suicide comes from clinical depression.
“I guess you’ve never loved anybody.”
You guess incorrectly.
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My mother committed suicide. Three years ago.
I did not feel empathy for her then. For she surely felt none for me, for her grandchildren or her great-grandchildren. Her sister, her brother, nor her nieces, nephews, nor cousins. She turned my late brother into a drug addict when he was only ten years old.
I spent nearly all of my life trying to help her. I became her mother when I was about seven. I suffered things you can never imagine. NEVER imagine. Yet I loved her and tried to carry her weight when she would or could not. She was beautiful, intellectually gifted, depraved and dissipated.
She was never one to TRY, for it was HARD. She had every gift, she had help, she had loving family whom she used and manipulated and humiliated to the point where we could no longer pull a single thread of empathy from our souls for her.
She chose to kill herself. Because living was too hard. That was her reason.
I still feel no empathy or pity. I spent all of that coin. I spent it when I thought it would do some good.
Here are some interesting comments:
Preach it! This article is incredibly insensitive. I actually checked the author's credentials I though he might be a Doctor of Veterinary Science.
Nor do they feel the relief of pain.
Then you sir are an atheist
Most vets I know are very empathetic
This yob is an atheist
A choice sometimes made by whole societies.
Depression is to the Mind what Cancer is to the Body.
Anyone who has not experienced relentless bouts of Depression has no business judging those who are afflicted with such debilitating anguish and chose what they felt was their only option.
I remember a saying about walking in another man’s shoes.
Most suicide notes say the person believed their loved ones would be better off without them.
It’s not mean-spirited, but it is brutally direct and honest. It also happens to be the truth. I’ve walked down the road to the edge of that terrible precipice. When darkness is your only light, it becomes a lonely, lonely road. I was spared. It is because the pain is beyond imagination that suicide appears to be an appealing alternative.
The truth sometimes is harsh. Those who commit suicide are truly hurting so much they can’t stand it. True.
Also true: suicide is the most selfish act, apart from murder, one can ever commit. Murder ends the life of another, for whatever selfish reasons one commits it. Suicide is murder of one’s self.
And the pain it causes others - usually for the rest of their lives - is the pain of the one who committed suicide passed on to many others; thus multiplied.
Better that one suffer themselves than cause the suffering of others and multiply it.
Character requires I suffer.
Selfishness requires that others suffer for me......so that I suffer no more......
It does not matter what you, I, or anyone else thinks.
There are times when people get terribly low. It may or may no be their own doing. They are where they are, and that’s that.
They are experiencing extreme anguish. It seems as if there is no other way out, and it may have been building for a decade or more. Something constitutes the last straw. They snap.
At that moment, the peace they will surely experience in the moment they no longer live, seems a welcome alternative.
This is called a coward’s way out. Strangely enough, the act of ending yourself is not a coward’s move. It is no easy thing to kill yourself. Self-preservation is parhaps the strongest natural urge any of us have. The only thing that could challenge it, could be the urge to save someone we love, a spouse, a child, perhaps a friend.
The survivors try to make sense of it. Yes, they can suffer from the decision. I don’t have an answer for that. The person who has come to the place they can’t take it any longer, is not intent on hurting anyone else. This is not an act of selfishness. THAT IS ABSURD! (they are intent on killing themself, but somehow to some morons that’s considered a selfish move) What does this person gain? They are submitting to losing everything! Selfish? Seriously?
Quite frankly, it can seem to the person who is desperate, that he/she is doing those people a favor. He/she may feel like they hurt them, continues to hurt them, and he/she may want to stop doing that. At that moment, it can easily seem as if he/she is doing them a favor.
Those who many think will suffer, may also be contributing factors to the absolute hopelessness that envelops the suicidal person.
In their final moment is seems as if they have failed those they love, their friends, their co-workers, many people they respect, and themselves. Their goals for life have been miserably failed. Decades of progress are suddenly in jeopardy.
This person is referenced by some to be a person who is thoughtless, and woefully mistaken, ignorant. Suicidal people are not people who haven’t thought it out, in many instances. It isn’t a spur of the moment decision. In their mind, it is totally rational. And if you know what they had gone through, you might see that.
You’re 45 years old, your children are between the ages of 8 and 15. Your spouse wants a divorce. You don’t have much to begin with, but suddenly you’re faced with no home, no wife, children you’ll be lucky to see every two weeks if you can house them. If you can’t you’ll be stuck taking them out to dinner and a movie, or visiting an amusement attraction. You will lose everything you’ve accumulated over the last 25 years. Your home will be gone too.
You’ll have to live in a single apartment, put up with poor furnishing. It will take you five years to barely get back on your feet. Everyone and everything that meant the most to you will be gone.
But hey, you’re an idiot if this gets to you.
Man, we sure have some light weight dumb-asses around here at times.
Does anyone understand the power of the ex-spouse, and how they can affect the minds of the children in their custody?
If the non-custodial parent lives in a single apartment, they can't share custody, realistically. They have no place for the kids to sleep.
If they can't take the kids over there and keep them entertained, they will have to go out with them, take them places that they would enjoy.
As soon as those kids return to their live-in home, it is quickly determined what the non custodial parent did. And that non-custodial parent is immediately a wanker for trying to buy the kid's love.
Because the non-custodial parent lives in a single so they can afford child support and eek out a meager living, they are also considered to be a great big loser. Why look at the place the live-in is providing, and the place the non-custodial parent has.
This can wear very thin for the non-custodial parent. Having felt like they have lost everything, it can seem like they lost every bit of contact with their kids too.
This can be devastating.
This is only one scenario. There are others out there.
People get worn down. It happens.
Some folks will go a whole life without every feeling like suicide is the only way out. Others may have it often. Still others may have it during one period in their life.
There are no easy answers, or stereotypes.
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