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Kansas high court again orders state to boost school funding
Townhall ^ | Jun 25, 2018 | John Hanna

Posted on 06/26/2018 10:30:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Edited on 06/26/2018 11:27:28 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

OPEKA, Kan. (AP) The Kansas Supreme Court Monday ruled for the third time in two years that the state's spending on public schools is inadequate despite an increase approved earlier this year, but gave the state another year to come up with more money.


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How does this even work?
1 posted on 06/26/2018 10:30:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs
"Its decision allows Kansas schools to remain open for the upcoming school year."

As opposed to what? Shutting the schools down? Don't you just love it when the threat is worse than the existing problem.

2 posted on 06/26/2018 10:35:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

As opposed to what?

VOUCHERS!


3 posted on 06/26/2018 10:37:50 AM PDT by boycott
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To: sickoflibs

How much does this cost?

1. A mother.
2. A neighbor mother.
3. Two pads of paper.
4. White board.
5. Computer and internet.
6. Textbooks on math, science, grammar, literature.
7. Kitchen table.
8. Pencils. Pens.

The national average of per student spending is about $13k per year in public schools. This does not include capital items (buildings).


4 posted on 06/26/2018 10:38:11 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: sickoflibs

Kansas Supreme Court is now legislating.


5 posted on 06/26/2018 10:38:40 AM PDT by boycott
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To: sickoflibs

Judges who give themselves legislative oversight powers.


6 posted on 06/26/2018 10:42:39 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: sickoflibs

Maybe they should consider forcing the federal government to pay for the illegal alien populations in the schools. These kids come here with no education and cannot speak English. They disputatiously suck-up resources by requiring specialized and individual teachers. All this at the expense of children of tax paying Americans. You know, the ones actually footing the bill!


7 posted on 06/26/2018 10:42:50 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: sickoflibs

Flip em the finger. A court can do a lot of things, but it cannot order the appropriation of money, or order tax increases.


8 posted on 06/26/2018 10:44:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: JoSixChip

disputatiously = disproportionately.


9 posted on 06/26/2018 10:44:26 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: sickoflibs

Take monies allocated for the courts.


10 posted on 06/26/2018 10:45:30 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: sickoflibs

Over half of school funding goes to administration costs.


11 posted on 06/26/2018 10:47:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: sickoflibs

Not well. But since we all know that money is made by magic the flaws of reality are easily sidestepped.


12 posted on 06/26/2018 10:52:06 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: sickoflibs

Ahh ... money can’t buy higher IQs for those students with low IQs.


13 posted on 06/26/2018 10:53:28 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: sickoflibs
KS staffed their Supremes by Kathleen Sebelius, with the aid of KS Liberal Lawyers Assn!

High time to impeach these Ruth “Buzzy” Ginsberg clones, take this up to the US Supreme Court, claiming KS Supreme are illegally demanding the right to order legislators raise taxes of tax paying KS residents!

14 posted on 06/26/2018 10:56:05 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower..AMERICA! Designed by geniuses - now run by the idiots in Congress.)
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To: DannyTN

The media’s lack of critical thinking in writing these stories up is pervasive but still astounding. They bash their 500 words out and go to Starbucks or something.

Government’s view of its schools as ideological day camps and indoctrination centers is obvious to anyone brave and willing enough to deal with reality.

Even parents and so-called conservatives - many of whom, it must be said, work in the schools - are lulled to sleep and ignore the risible concept that schools should be one of the pillars of society. It’s worth noting that society used to have three pillars of society - church, school and family. Marxists have been rather successful at pushing churches and religion out of the way and even more successful at breaking up the family, leaving just the schools - and the schools have been transformed into something very sinister and ugly.

Imagine picking 30 kids at random:
-3 of them are addicted to street drugs or opioids or alcohol
-5 of them are on some other form of psychotropic drugs for ADD, depression, anxiety, etc.
-5 of them are engaged in criminal activity
-2 of them are undiagnosed or untreated dangerous psychos
-15 of them might be considered otherwise normal

Compulsory attendance laws and demands that ‘everyone is entitled to an education’ means that the state intentionally herds normal kids who want to learn into confined spaces with people - regardless of age - who have no business being in school.

Schools are unfit for purpose. Schools attempting to become music academies, sport clubs, art schools, and anything else beyond the concentration on and transfer of knowledge are unfit for those purposes as well but extracurricular activities are constantly invoked as a means of camouflaging the abysmal, expensive mess that is public education.

McDonald’s occasionally tries to sell salads, apples, juice and other healthy fare. Inevitably the public mocks or ignores these items and wants its hamburgers and fries. McDonald’s then makes a big production of saying ‘we’re going back to what we do best.’ It’s the correct decision but it stakes way too much time and money.

Schools, on the other hand, never get round to confronting their existential crises and are allowed to skate. Schools and the classes therein should be selective and regimented. Smart kids must take tests, write essays and generally break their necks - merely to escape the rabble be taught at their correct intellectual level! They are held up as AP, honors, gifted show ponies but the real scandal is that most schools and most classes are open-air prisons with a chalkboard hung on the wall. Schools bend over backwards to coddle criminals, thugs and psychos. ‘Expulsion’ really isn’t. In fact, it’s an excuse for the school to lavish even more attention on a punk - counselors, special teachers, etc.

Schools must be forced to return to their core functions. Those unable or unwilling to learn should be shunted off to different facilities at their parents’ expense.

Music education? A private academy. Dramatics? A private academy. Sports? An academy/club where playing fields, medical/training staff and coaches work ie a huge savings thanks to economies of scale. Dances? A community cotillion board. All dances and social functions are VOLUNTARY. If they mention Christmas or Easter and someone objects, then that someone can stay home. If they have a dress code and specify male/female couples, then same sex couples can go elsewhere. No lawsuits, no pickets, no court orders. Moving the game off leftist turf is a must.

If teachers’ unions are going to protect incompetent teachers, then schools can play hardball with the unions. Where are the unions going to go for work and retirement income? Poor test scores/grades and a general lack of knowledge will be cause for temporary or permanent reductions in compensation. Make the unions police their own if they want the bucks.

So many obvious fixes for the broken schools - many of which would produce huge cost savings.


15 posted on 06/26/2018 10:56:54 AM PDT by relictele
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Next they should mandate use of horses and buggies on state roads... :-(

The Internet has turned schools into very very expensive babysitters.


16 posted on 06/26/2018 11:00:46 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: sickoflibs

The court has no standing on this issue.

Period!


17 posted on 06/26/2018 11:09:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DannyTN
RE:” Its decision allows Kansas schools to remain open for the upcoming school year.”
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As opposed to what? Shutting the schools down? Don't you just love it when the threat is worse than the existing problem. “

Time for private school vouchers.

I dont understand how a court can order this, unless those elected are behind it too and want cover.

18 posted on 06/26/2018 11:35:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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RE:”Flip em the finger. A court can do a lot of things, but it cannot order the appropriation of money, or order tax increases.”

I have the same question on this as with Flores, how can a court enforce an order like this?

They can close the school maybe, or in Flores maybe order the government to let everyone caught at the border asking for asylum to go free in the US.

Until they get what they demand.

19 posted on 06/26/2018 11:40:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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Someone help me out here...

What if the Legislature decided to simply ignore the state Supreme Court?

What type of enforcement mechanism would the court have to get the Legislature to comply?


20 posted on 06/26/2018 12:05:30 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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