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More Winning at SCOTUS!
SCOTUS ^ | June 27, 2018 | SCOTUS

Posted on 06/27/2018 7:04:17 AM PDT by luv2ski

JUSTICE ALITO delivered the opinion of the Court. Under Illinois law, public employees are forced to subsi­ dize a union, even if they choose not to join and strongly object to the positions the union takes in collective bar­ gaining and related activities. We conclude that this arrangement violates the free speech rights of nonmem­ bers by compelling them to subsidize private speech on matters of substantial public concern. We upheld a similar law in Abood v. Detroit Bd. of Ed., 431 U. S. 209 (1977), and we recognize the importance of following precedent unless there are strong reasons for not doing so. But there are very strong reasons in this case. Fundamental free speech rights are at stake. Abood was poorly reasoned. It has led to practical problems and abuse. It is inconsistent with other First Amendment cases and has been undermined by more recent decisions. Developments since Abood was handed down have shed new light on the issue of agency fees, and no reliance interests on the part of public-sector unions are sufficient to justify the perpetuation of the free speech violations


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abood; aflcio; afscme; biglabor; firstamendment; freespeech; fundingtheleft; janus; janusvafscme; laborunions; maga; nea; ruling; scotus; teamsters; trumpscotus; uaw; unions; winning
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To: freedumb2003

Yes, but, the union will be fighting this at every level, and make it damn near impossible for these folks to get out of payment.... expect a lot of lower level court fights...

If you are paying these dues and want out, likely will take you a good while to get them to stop stealing from you.


21 posted on 06/27/2018 7:08:52 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: BlessedBeGod

I think it was 5-4, but I may be wrong.


22 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:00 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (WWG1WGA!)
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To: BillyBonebrake

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23 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:02 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: freedumb2003

So no more forced union dues?

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I think so.

The thugs are going to go ballistic.


24 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:20 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Reno89519

That’s 5.


25 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:46 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: luv2ski

also from SCOTUS blog: Of practical importance, the Court also holds that employees must affirmatively consent before fees can be withheld from their paychecks —the system must be opt-in, not opt-out.


26 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:54 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski

YES! More Winning!
Great DAYS AHEAD!


27 posted on 06/27/2018 7:09:55 AM PDT by djstex (The REAL News of The Day ... Trump is Our President EVERYDAY! :))
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To: BlessedBeGod

No, 5-4


28 posted on 06/27/2018 7:10:20 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: luv2ski
p. 44–47. 3. For these reasons, States and public-sector unions may no longer extract agency fees from nonconsenting employees. The First Amendment is violated when money is taken from nonconsenting employees for a public-sector union; employees must choose to support the union before anything is taken from them. Accordingly, neither an agency fee nor any other form of payment to a public-sector union may be deducted from an employee, nor may any other attempt be made to collect such a payment, unless the employee affirmatively consents to pay. Pp. 48–49. 851 F. 3d 746, reversed and remanded.
29 posted on 06/27/2018 7:10:31 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Sessions isn't gonna do crap about Hillary, he is part of the Swamp.)
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To: Reno89519

I was trying to figure it out from the linked opinion, but was having trouble finding it. Can you tell me where to look, so I know for the next time?

Thanks ahead of time!

30 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:01 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

This should be the end of public unions. The court seems to say that that government employees cannot be required to join, cannot be required to pay fee to cover costs of collective bargaining. That kind of puts unions out of business UNLESS they offer something worth paying for. It is now voluntary.


31 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:02 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

This should be the end of public unions. The court seems to say that that government employees cannot be required to join, cannot be required to pay fee to cover costs of collective bargaining. That kind of puts unions out of business UNLESS they offer something worth paying for. It is now voluntary.


32 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:02 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: luv2ski

This is a HUGE deal.

I ain’t no ways tarred of WINNING!


33 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:17 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: luv2ski

Wow! Isn’t WINNING fun!


34 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: cornfedcowboy

This is a HUGE deal!


35 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:34 AM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: Reno89519

That’s 5. Only 4 dissented.


36 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:36 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: luv2ski
I just overdosed on winning🙃🙃🙃😉😉😉🤪🤪🤪🤪
37 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:45 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: laplata

Same crying by CNN as yesterday. All the fault of McConnel because he denied a seat to Merrick Garland.

I love it.


38 posted on 06/27/2018 7:11:51 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

Next, how far back can employees go to ask for their money back now that it is voluntary?


39 posted on 06/27/2018 7:12:07 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: luv2ski
Abood is overruled! No more public-union theft of the hard-earned money of workers. Thank goodness Gorsuch, instead of Garland, was there.
40 posted on 06/27/2018 7:12:25 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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