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20 Preppers Speculate What Civil War 2.0 Would Look Like in America
Organic Prepper ^ | August 24, 2017 | Editorial staff

Posted on 06/30/2018 2:10:03 AM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox

Interesting thread


41 posted on 06/30/2018 5:54:03 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: AppyPappy
All fantasies. There is only about 1% of the country who deeply cares about these matters. Most people are pretty ambivalent. That’s why pollsters never ask “Do you care enough to get off your dead azz and do something about it?” because almost everyone would answer “not really”.

As long as there is food in the grocery stores, gas in the pumps, football on TV, and porn on the internet, why bother?

Most people don't care!

Our system of government is largely set up in a fashion that most of us can continue to live our daily lives in the manner of which we are comfortable regardless of what party occupies power in Washington. That's why only half of us even bother to vote.

November will be perhaps the most consequential midterm election in history and I'll bet turnout is under 50% of eligible voters.

42 posted on 06/30/2018 5:55:55 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: vannrox

What it will look like is like nothing seen in our lifetimes. Blooder eventually than the first go around and as the LEFT is not prepared I look for them to reach out to third world leftest and Jihadist for true fighting men offering citizenship, money and sex.

Though most leftist will have no stomach for face to face fighting, they will have no problems bombing schools Hospitals or anywhere they can get a high body count of innocent. And GOD have mercy on you if you are Patriot and are captured, pray you save a bullet for yourself.

Think Bosnia over all Beirut is another good example of what we can expect, but I think we may get an even better example soon for especially for Blue State areas when Venezuela finally goes up in flames. And that’s how communism dies not with a whimper, but in fire and blood.

It is your choice you can prep you can scramble for leavings.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

The fact is we Americans have been living the good life for several generation now and that has made us susceptible to a condition called Normalcy Bias. This can get you killed is is something you must seriously guard against. Normalcy Bias cause people to not accept that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and as well as the seriousness of what is happening.

This condition is common in situations where people have failed to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. (A recent example I give you Nicaragua’s Telica volcano eruption)

Many times people make the assumption that since a disaster has never occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before and deeply believed that never would occur.

People with Normalcy Bias also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer the situation is far less serious than it real is.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom: https://thesurvivalmom.com/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

I also posted this advice the other day, but it bears repeating: If you watch this thread you will see that even on FR there are those who hate and scoff at those who would be prepared to take care of their own should a shtf event occur. They like to claim they are not worried,because nothing is going to happen, some even say things like if it happens I just rob the preppers for my needs. When called on their words they claim they are only joking, but in my experience people who try to mask their words by claiming that they are only joking are only trying to cover the slip of the real them that came out in their words.

When push comes to shove you would surprised what people who claim they don’t care will do to cling to life.

One of the most dangerous groups that preppers will have to deal with are the anti-preppers, because they will not only covet what preppers have they will feel the need to punish preppers for having prepared and will feel morally justified in punishing preppers as in their twisted minds they will see the reason that the SHTF event occurred was because they dared prep for it. Their envy and indignation will be like that of leftist have for people who strikes out works hard and makes a good living or even gets well off and not sharing with them. This is a leftist think, but I have seen it’s example as I state above right here on the pages of FR,

Just getting started or an old hand you might find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download the manual at: http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf ;

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change places to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recommend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom ( https://thesurvivalmom.com/) where you can get lots of useful.

Also Selco’s Blog a Bosinia war survivor ( https://shtfschool.com/blog/) which I believe would come close to what a modern civil war looks like.


43 posted on 06/30/2018 5:56:33 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: maine-iac7

Interesting post, and useful.


44 posted on 06/30/2018 5:57:19 AM PDT by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: Travis McGee

Are you ready to go from novelist to history writer/recorder?


45 posted on 06/30/2018 6:06:49 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Original Lurker

It’s the other way around...people would flee population centers and super cold environments for the South.


46 posted on 06/30/2018 6:07:22 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: vannrox
Civil War II.
  1. Mueller recommends indicting President Trump.
  2. Congress impeaches Pres. Trump, finds him guilty of "collusion" based on phony deep state "evidence".
  3. General unrest ensues, some rioting a few deaths.
  4. The Senate votes for removal
  5. Huge rioting.
  6. President Trump flees to a city like Dallas which accepts him with open arms.
  7. 13 Southern states plus 11 mid west and SW states vote that the congress acted in bad faith and President Trump is still the President.
  8. Those state hold their own emergency ART V convention. They vote to that the US govt is illegitimate. The vote on secession. They vote that Dallas is the new capitol of the of the Republic of America (ROA) and President Trump starts to form a federal govt. there. Elected officials(congressmen and senators) are recalled from DC. They are given a choice to join the new congress in Dallas or resign, Elections are held to reparable the abstainers.

Will war follow? Who knows....

47 posted on 06/30/2018 6:12:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Can’t we just skip 1-7 and go right to 8?


48 posted on 06/30/2018 6:15:50 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: vannrox

Not going to happen.

If violence begins, it will be treated like a crime.

War, even a guerrilla type war requires an organization, it requires money, it requires supplies (and resupplies), it requires some training, it requires people willing to die for their cause. Sort of what some “preppers” have been doing. But can you imagine the snowflakes that make up the cannon fodder of the left today be willing to make the sacrifices required to be ready to go to war? No! I can not either.

Look to the middle east for lessons on urban guerrilla warfare.

How effective are the Muslims against Israel? The Palestinians have support, they have supplies, they have people willing to die for their cause, yet after 70 years they have nothing to show for all the deaths.

Paid rioters catching random individuals or facing police under orders not to react with too much force is not a civil war. It is riots.

Our nation has seen riots before and will see them again.

I suspect most of the demonstrators in these leftist riots are just young people enjoying themselves destroying property. If they thought there was a possibility of them dying during the riots they would not participate.

No, there is not going to be a Civil War II.


49 posted on 06/30/2018 6:18:26 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: Original Lurker

>>This Jeriann clown is a real idiot.

I agree. Most of them are saying what I believe to be true. But she does not understand the south at all.

I’m glad that none of them think it will look anything like the 1861 War for Independence. Far too much of that misconception running around here on CW threads.


50 posted on 06/30/2018 6:29:54 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: vannrox

‘“Democrats are doing wild, suicidal things because they are not just on the defensive, but on the verge of collapse, as the Trump administration breaking down their ‘evil empire’… ‘


51 posted on 06/30/2018 6:33:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A "pornstar" and a foul-mouthed inarticulate clown are appropriate spokesmen for the Democrat Party.)
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To: ontap

This isn’t about North or South and if you think the North is unarmed you’re uninformed.

This is about liberals riling up the have nots to start acting out.

At some point the quiet conservatives will start carrying weapons and actively defending themselves.

At that point, the left will attempt to outlaw self-defense and the mayors and governors will seek to confiscate weapons, it won’t happen at the federal level unless we let another liberal in the White House.

If libs get control, then the fight will be with those attempting to confiscate weapons.

If commerce shuts down, that’s a different story.


52 posted on 06/30/2018 6:50:59 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: maine-iac7
Wow maine-iac7, your sanity and common sense are refreshing.

If there will be a CW II in America, it will start with an world wide economic collapse, a run on the banks, so-to-speak. With a little fact checking, you can find out that the crash of '29 was also followed by another crash 2 years later, because the Fed Gov did not know what they were doing. What I am indicating here is that for CW II to happen there will be a series of cascading events that lead to the condition for violent uprising.

The USA is a majority of "normals" both Dem and Repub who just want to go about their lives. When the average Joe sees the normal living becoming untenable, that is when the first skirmishes will start.

53 posted on 06/30/2018 6:51:50 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall. Deport them All.)
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To: Bryanw92

1861 War for Independence...

Did I miss something?


54 posted on 06/30/2018 6:54:45 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

I recall Germany bombing Hiroshima...

or Hawaii.


55 posted on 06/30/2018 6:56:41 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Original Lurker
This Jeriann clown is a real idiot.

Yeah....because everyone who lives in the warmer South wants to move to the much colder north. He lost credibility right there.

56 posted on 06/30/2018 7:00:26 AM PDT by ealgeone
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This is worth repeating:
"One of the most dangerous groups that preppers will have to deal with are the anti-preppers, because they will not only covet what preppers have they will feel the need to punish preppers for having prepared and will feel morally justified in punishing preppers as in their twisted minds they will see the reason that the SHTF event occurred was because they dared prep for it. Their envy and indignation will be like that of leftist have for people who strike out work hard and make a good living or even get well off and not sharing with them. This is a leftist think"

57 posted on 06/30/2018 7:04:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A "pornstar" and a foul-mouthed inarticulate clown are appropriate spokesmen for the Democrat Party.)
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certrtwngnut :"You my FRiend have got it right.
Take care of your own."

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Now you can go figure out if this article applies to you

A thought provoking article

See especially post #12, post #16 & post #43
then apply the "OODA loop" to see if you agree with the writer, the opinions, and the article

58 posted on 06/30/2018 7:06:22 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Drew68

Sadly, you have very aptly summarized America today.


59 posted on 06/30/2018 7:06:58 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Savage Beast
I think a lot of people on our side would play by a set of rules. The group you describe plays by only one rule: what's in it for me.

The quote is a very valid and accurate one.

60 posted on 06/30/2018 7:10:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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