Skip to comments.France, the Nazis, and Gun Control
Posted on 08/02/2018 4:48:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga
In 1935, French prime minister Pierre Laval, who later served in the Vichy government during the Nazis' four-year occupation of France, commanded French citizens to surrender their firearms. Laval and France's ruling parties feared social revolution and banned "war" weapons, instituting strict gun registration policies. ... Strict time limits for firearms registration and harsh penalties for noncompliance, including forfeiture, fines, and imprisonment, were put in place. Laval's government did not foresee the impact these restrictive measures would have on a Nazi-conquered France just five years later, when firearms surrender would be required under threat of death.
In Gun Control in Nazi-Occupied France: Tyranny and Resistance, attorney Stephen P. Halbrook explores the impact and efficacy of gun control measures on Wehrmacht-controlled France and how these measures hindered the French Resistance's fight against Nazi tyranny. The author asserts that Laval's 1935 gun control efforts left the French people vulnerable to the Nazi invaders and ill equipped to deal with the Nazi invasion of 1940, plus simplified the Nazi efforts to confiscate firearms and impede a French resistance.
From 1940 to 1941, when the French police were responsible for collecting guns, executions were rare, Halbrook reports. In 1942, when armed resistance accelerated and the Nazi SS assumed police duties, executions for firearms possession increased markedly. To deter gun-hoarding, ... ;French and German police conducted frequent house-to-house searches and solicited tips from informers. Nonetheless, the Germans found collecting firearms a daunting, near impossible task. Despite the death penalty, many civilians risked keeping their guns.
Shortly thereafter, Hitler brought in the SS to assume command over the French and German police. Press censorship and anti-Jewish policies began. Jews were ordered to wear the yellow Star of David, and the French police under SS direction began gathering Jews to deport them to death camps.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
When the U.S. entered the war, the morale of the occupying Germans plummeted, spurring Resistance activities. Arms concealment became more efficient and organized, despite continuing cooperation between the German military police and French gendarmes. The Nazis tightened gun restrictions, issuing a new order to execute anyone who knew a fellow citizen with a gun and failed to inform authorities. No further amnesties were issued, and those possessing arms were summarily shot
THIS is what the Democrats want for the USA. An armed citizenry is the ONLY effective deterrent to a tyranny that would make the former Soviet Union look like a libertarian paradise
I am Jewish, and know for a fact that over 100 of my distant relatives on my mother’s side were murdered by the Nazis. On my father’s side, many fewer were murdered by the Nazis, but that is because most of his side of the family was living in a giant open-air prison, known as the Soviet Union, for about 75 years.
I will not voluntarily give up my firearms. Period. If, somehow, they managed to get confiscated and I am left free and alive, then I will do everything humanly possible to buy, make or steal other firearms with which to protect myself and my family. In the past my family had no firearms, and because they were unable to defend themselves they were either murdered or forced to live under one of the worst dictatorships to ever exist. Neither I nor my family will be so victimized by our government.
The democrat gun control politician Laval was eventually executed but he should have been executed when he first brought the measures 10 years earlier.
I agree, it’s great to be agreeable.
Pierre Laval was the actual “power behind the throne” of the by-then-doddering Marshal Henri Petain, during the years of Vichy France.
If you want to see dishonesty in action watch this video of one of GA's black female Democrat legislators on Tucker Carlson's show. She is a surrogate for the Dem's black female democrat candidate for governor and what they want regarding firearms is almost identical to what the Vichey French and the Nazis wanted.
“If, somehow, they [my guns] managed to get confiscated and I am left free and alive....”
Your guns must be registered before they can be confiscated, unless the po-po are bent on searching every home in America (they can’t; it’s too gigantic a task). There is already widespread noncompliance with registration laws in blue states, so nationwide Australian style registration followed by confiscation of whatever the government says you shouldn’t own, isn’t going to happen.
I panicked when it was predicted that Hillary would win and did tons of research on the subject of confiscation and concluded that it is both Constitutionally and logistically as well as tactically impossible.
This isn’t Europe, either before or after WWII. Remember the Warsaw Ghetto uprising and what Jews determined to resist the Nazis were able to do with only a handful of weapons.
The Left is huffing & puffing and threatening, but that’s all they can do. Americans are continuing to arm up and the so-called “Trump slump” in arms sales is fake news.
The horrors of the Third Reich and Stalinist Russia are long dead though we will never forget their victims and yes we will always shout “Never again!”. But such brutal regimes can never be resurrected least of all in these United States where citizens can have guns. But watch out for the new Snitch Laws in some states where anyone can denounce a gun owner to the police, Gestapo style.
Advocates for confiscation can call gun owners “deplorables” and “bitter clingers” and burn up their keyboards but that’s all they can do.
Thank God for the United States of America!
If Jews had been armed would the Nazis have been able to do what they did?
Disarm then eliminate.
That woman’s a fruitcake...and very good at dodging questions.
He was a collaborator. The French version of Vidkun Quisling.
By definition a liberal Democrat HAS to be a fruitcake to believe in what they believe in...
and very good at dodging questions.
Dishonesty abounds in the Democrat party - notice how she lied about her confiscation bill. Flat out said it didn't have confiscation in it and then when Carlson read out verbatim that it did she changed the subject
Anyway this performance is typical of the local Democrats - part of why my handle mentions "Occupied ga" It is occupied by these tyrants
Probably not - an example NOT lost on Democrats.
“Your guns must be registered before they can be confiscated....”
“There is already widespread noncompliance with registration laws in blue states....”
“But watch out for the new Snitch Laws in some states where anyone can denounce a gun owner to the police, Gestapo style.”
I agree with you that confiscation is unlikely on a national level - it would be, just like 243 years ago, the very spark of revolution...with this revolution being the reclamation of our sacred Republic from the tyrannical statists. They KNOW this, yet keep trying to control/eliminate the legality of firearms - that is how strong their desire for power is, that it causes them to call for something irrational that hurts them in elections.
All I know is that every year the American public buys an additional 15-17 million firearms and many billions of rounds of ammo that are put in storage for “in case,” that many tens of thousands (if not more) of unregistered 80% receivers are converted into operable 100% receivers, and that each year as hundreds of thousands of older gun owners either gift their guns to relatives, or die and leave their guns to those relatives, many hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of guns go off paper.
I LOVE this quote by Lincoln - it is as true now as when he spoke it over 180 years ago:
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chests; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in the trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
January 27, 1838
Agreed, though I really should state the USSR would actually look AS bad as the Democrats’ plans.
Heck, the USSR and French Communists also collaborated in rounding up Jews as well.
An armed citizenry is definitely the only surefire way to avoid tyranny. That being said, we also need to do it right. Technically, Robespierre’s France never had gun control or gun registration either, yet that definitely didn’t prevent a tyranny, it if anything made things even more horrific. Heck, based on the fact that the Cordeliers Club used our founding documents as the basis and made the Jacobins look like moderates, it’s very likely they had a second amendment, and yet they STILL managed to use their second amendment freedom to cause a show by shooting people with shotguns for a laugh, as you can read here: http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/Archives/Fidelity_archives/parricide.html
In other words, gun control is bad and should not be practiced ever, neither should gun registration. But we also must make sure we not become like the Jacobins or Cordeliers and use the second amendment as a means to kill each other for a laugh.
As far as the USSR rounding up Jews, agreed, but my point was that police follow orders, and anyone expecting the Bill of Rights to be respected by those "who take the king's coin" is in for a brutal surprise. The Vichey French police knew they were sending their countrymen to their deaths simply for being Jews - not for being a threat. They did it anyway.
Here the left would send us to places like Dachau (if the could) simply because we disagree with them politically and unlike European Jews we ARE a threat.
True, but we can at least expect the military to not obey any orders in violation of the Constitution, being made to swear an oath to defend the Constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic. I’m not sure about the police, though, since I don’t know if they have that kind of oath to swear by. I’m pretty sure France has that sort of thing, certainly not by the time of the interwar period.
As far as Fort Sumter and Appomattox, I agree we didn’t thank goodness, and we can thank John Adams and his fair trial with the British for NOT having that occur (had it been Jefferson, going by how he sang praises for the Jacobins and similar groups since spending time in France around Bastille Day even when his own contemporaries back in America were growing more disgusted by the Jacobins’ sordid actions, I’m pretty sure he would have made sure there were mobs going against British people even when they hadn’t actually done anything wrong just for a laugh. I’m not fond of Jefferson ESPECIALLY after his cheerleading the Jacobin cause).
*Im pretty sure France doesn’t have that sort of thing
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