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Payrolls rise 157,000 missing expectations, but overall picture still strong (Overall good report)
CNBC ^ | 3 August 2018 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 08/03/2018 5:48:33 AM PDT by ScottinVA

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To: ScottinVA

Running out of employable people.


21 posted on 08/03/2018 7:25:38 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: joesbucks

Perhaps the higher black unemployment rate might be due to more blacks looking for jobs. I recall some economist saying unemployment can increase when MORE people are LOOKING.

When they stop looking for work (either employed OR so discouraged they quit looking) they are no longer considered “unemployed”.


22 posted on 08/03/2018 7:26:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ecomcon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember job gains being revised downward consistently during the Obama administration.

Yep.. I remember that often.

23 posted on 08/03/2018 7:26:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberals, piss off. That is all.)
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To: ScottinVA

Number of people age 16+ not in the labor force is near an all time high, but slightly improved from the high in May, 2018. https://beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/LNS15000000


24 posted on 08/03/2018 7:26:51 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: SoFloFreeper

That’s possible but I’m not sure how that’s determined as the rates are from those getting unemployment compensation. Someone long out of the labor force wouldn’t be getting that assistance.


25 posted on 08/03/2018 7:28:27 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: mountainlion
"Why are the liberal expectations always wrong?"

And why does every positive news report involving the Trump administration carry some kind of caveat?

Today, the LIV sees this as a negative and disappointing number, as intended.

It's so tiresome (and predictable).

If this report had come out two or three years ago, the headline would be "Obama Economy Continues Its Surge."

26 posted on 08/03/2018 7:36:48 AM PDT by daler
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To: ScottinVA
I am near certain that any payroll numbers that fall short of expectations are almost entirely a function of employers unable to fill open positions right now. Any working-age American who is not employed right now probably falls into the following categories:

1. They don't want/need to work.

2. They are unemployable, not unemployed.

27 posted on 08/03/2018 8:15:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: babble-on

Right on. Thank you for the explanation. So the ADP info is just another data point but the BLS numbers should be considered the authoritative superset?


28 posted on 08/03/2018 8:24:49 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Running out of employable people.

Very possibly. 4% unemployment is generally considered "full employment", so the fact that we're hovering there would point to that as being true. You'll get confirmation if you start to see wages begin to rise at a faster pace than the 2.7% reported this period.

29 posted on 08/03/2018 8:30:50 AM PDT by Be Free (When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.)
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To: NohSpinZone

That’s the way I look at them. The ADP is “interesting”, the BLS is authoritative.

Yes it’s a “survey” but it’s a survey of 650,000 workplaces. Robust, as they say. (That’s for the non-farm payrolls number. The “unemployment rate” is from a different survey, the “household survey” and it is not as good. Has to be revised periodically to correct it to the establishment survey.)


30 posted on 08/03/2018 8:39:26 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ScottinVA

“unemployment rate ... is around its lowest level in nearly 50 years. “

Key figure.


31 posted on 08/03/2018 12:34:30 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: ScottinVA

Am I wrong. If everyone is working this number goes to zero?
More and more people in the workforce and something like 6 million unfilled jobs out there.


32 posted on 08/03/2018 1:19:46 PM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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