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McCain and the Forrestal Fire...from 2008
Truth Dig ^ | Oct. 7, 2008 | Mary Hershberger

Posted on 08/27/2018 1:11:54 PM PDT by blu

Ever since, McCain has added compelling details at key points in his political career. When his stories are placed beside documented evidence from other sources, significant contradictions often emerge. One such case involves McCain’s experience in the devastating fire and explosions that killed 134 sailors on the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War three months before he was shot down over North Vietnam. McCain has made claims about this accident that differ dramatically from parts of the official Navy report and accounts of reliable eyewitnesses.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: election2008smear; fire; libpropaganda; mccain; militaryhistory; saigon; usnavy; ussforrestal
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I found this very clear explanation of the USS Forrestal incident. I do not aim to dis McCain. I'm just flabbergasted at how the press today is acting like Lincoln died, and in 2008, they were a little more interested in verifiable truth. It's pretty long, but well worth the truth. (Tip: McCain didn't help clean up the mess onboard after a missle "fell" (which is explained as not possible) off his plane, contributing the the disaster....and then he flew off to Saigon for R&R and requested a transfer...and missed the onboard memorial of the 161 dead shipmates)
1 posted on 08/27/2018 1:11:54 PM PDT by blu
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To: blu

Has this not been de-bunked?


2 posted on 08/27/2018 1:19:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

He also wasn’t a good pilot based on something I read sometime ago where he crashed a couple of planes.


3 posted on 08/27/2018 1:25:13 PM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: BenLurkin

No it has not. What is debunked is that he didn’t fire the Zuni missile. That came from a Phantom II. McCain did make it worse while saving his skin. Then he left the ship as they dealt with the aftermath.

That is a fact.


4 posted on 08/27/2018 1:29:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: blu

All hail St Songbird Wet-start.


5 posted on 08/27/2018 1:30:12 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Rappini

several...


6 posted on 08/27/2018 1:31:01 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: DesertRhino

If he purposely wet start his engine (a thing wiseguy pilots did to piss of pilots behind them) and the wet start caused the rocket to ignite, then he did cause it.


7 posted on 08/27/2018 1:32:46 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: blu
My promised article concerning McCain and the USS Forrestal(CV-59) Fire

Documentary: USS Forrestal Aircraft Carrier Disaster 1:25:00

John McCain escapes Forrestal explosion 1:17 Raw film of the Forrestal fire.

Diagram of planes on Forrestal deck.

NS025929.– This diagram was taken from a drawing provided by USS Forrestal and shows the location of CVW-17 aircraft spotted for launch moments before the fire broke out. From "Naval Aviation News," October 1967 issue.

FReeper dunblak was on the Forrestal during the fire.

McCain and the Forrestal fire 3:23 Aug. 3, 2008 (Democrat election propaganda)

That Youtube video is where the Democrat propaganda about the BS "Wet Start" began.

8 posted on 08/27/2018 1:33:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: hal ogen

The truthis hard to come by unless you see it with your own eyes.. not just his everything..


9 posted on 08/27/2018 1:33:38 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Vaquero
Diagram of planes on Forrestal deck.

There were no "pilots behind him" as this diagram of the planes on the deck makes clear. He was in #416.

10 posted on 08/27/2018 1:35:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: blu

More proof that the only thing John McCain EVER cared about was John McCain.


11 posted on 08/27/2018 1:37:42 PM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows what's right and he keeps on coming.)
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To: blu

There is a documentary by Discover channel, must be at least 20 years ago
McCain sits on stool and explains he thought it was best to stay below and shake the hands of the boys rather than go up top and fight to save the ship.
Many rolled out of bunks in nothing but boxers and bare feet
McCain chose to shake hands below while wearing a nomex flight suit and boots.

That interview sealed my opinion of him


12 posted on 08/27/2018 1:42:12 PM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: blu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tkBiFZBix0&feature=youtu.be

John McCain - 1969 Tokyo Rose Vietnam Confession


13 posted on 08/27/2018 1:43:07 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (If only Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could talk.)
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To: blu

Sorry some of that is not true. This has been debunked here on FR within the last 2 or 3 years in detail.

That missile did not come from McCain’s plane and he wasn’t trying to wet start his plane. That missile was an accident nothing more.

Now it is true McCain was shipped out right after the incident probably more due to the fact he was so despised by the officers and crew and his CO just used this accident as a excuse to transfer him out.


14 posted on 08/27/2018 1:43:11 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: blu

bkmk


15 posted on 08/27/2018 1:44:03 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Kakaze
Lord if that is true then McCain was a true Coward as well as Reckless and Immature. If that had been done during W.W. II he would have been court marshaled and dishonorably discharged.
16 posted on 08/27/2018 1:46:28 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

His transfer might also have had something to do with the fact that the Forrestal was no longer a functioning aircraft carrier.


17 posted on 08/27/2018 1:50:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I watched the documentary. I’ll see if I can find a link


18 posted on 08/27/2018 1:50:40 PM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

It’s not true. Pilots were never part of fire suppression teams onboard Navy vessels.


19 posted on 08/27/2018 1:51:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: BenLurkin
Has this not been de-bunked?

Snopes has tried very hard, but in my estimation, failed by omission; responding to some charges and totally ignoring others.
That is not the sharpest fact checking site currently available.

I am active working on getting a copy of the official Navy report on the Forrestal incident, and McCain's role in the 160-death disaster...

20 posted on 08/27/2018 1:54:46 PM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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