Posted on 10/04/2018 3:55:06 PM PDT by NRx
...Well. In Madison, Wisconsin, the city council has voted overwhelmingly to remove a cemetery marker noting the names of about 140 Confederates, most of whom died in a prisoner of war camp in the town. More:
You dont have discussion in a cemetery. You have reflection, and you have memories, and this (monument) brings up memories that are not so pleasant in our history, said Council Vice President Sheri Carter.
These are Americans who died as prisoners of war. They die off like rotten sheep, said a Union soldier who worked at the camp, where conditions were bad. The monument is a tombstone large enough to feature the names of each of the dead. This is not a statue of a Confederate war hero. It is simply a grave marker noting the names of POWs who died far from home.
There is no longer equality before God of the fallen, not in Madison, Wisconsin. The city council spits on these dead men, who passed away not in combat, but in Union custody.
You misunderstood. Sal basically said that the town does not deserve to have the remains if they cannot properly honor said remains.
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Why do we have all these monuments throughout the U.S.?
No it has nothing to do with Jim Crow.
It comes from a speech a (Northerner) president, McKinley, made in a speech in Atlanta Georgia in I believe 1898. McKinley said it was time to bury the hatchet on the Civil War and that the dead and veterans of both sides needed to be honored.
That triggered a huge public response and monuments to the Civil War veterans, both North and South, began to be constructed throughout the country.
People forget there is even a monument to the Confederate war dead at Arlington.
Were it not for his sacrifice and suffering, I and other cloe relatives might not be here. My gr grandfather had a son not too long after he died and named him after the one who died in Louisiana. That gr gr uncle went gold prospecting in Alaska, never married, and my father met him in Alaska during WWII where my father was serving.
There is a Confederate Cemetery on Rock Island Arsenal island where the former prison was located (mentoned in Margaret Mitchell's novel). Ashley, the love of Scarlett O'Hara until she was captivated by Rhett. I think Ashley may have survived, not sure. The cemetery is maintained and a ceremony every Memorial Day. I hope it continues.
This desecration is politically motivated, but the grounds are probably valuable real estate.
This is over reaction.
The only Confederate monument here in MA, also to POWs, was uprooted a few years ago by our RINO governor Baker.
They weren’t murdered, they died under conditions that existed in POW camps on both sides of the war — proximity, lack of nutrition and disease. 1860s simply wasn’t a great time to end up in a prison of any kind if you wanted a long life.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
When I toured Europe, Luxembourg to be exact, I wet to see the American cemetery where General George S. Patton was laid to rest. It was immaculate and pristine as Augusta during the Masters.
Not far away was a German military cemetery. The markers were not well kept, the cemetery not in great shape and a marker was shared by 4 German soldiers.
Luxembourg had no reason to let the Germans maintain a military cemetery in their nation that had been occupied and conquered during the war. However there was some humanity in the gesture and a finality that the war had been laid to rest.
If only the American left knew the war was over. Instead they seem intent on inflaming the next one.
You speak for Salvavida? That’s cool...
The property at Andersonville would grow good peanuts.
Just need a bulldozer to clear it all out.
The conditions in the federal death camps where adequate food, clothing and medicine was not a problem were entirely avoidable.
Read “to Die in Chicago” about the awful Camp Douglas or read about Point Lookout or Elmira aka “Hellmira” and tell me the perpetrators shouldn’t have been charged with murder. Men were rightfully convicted at Nuremburg on less evidence.
Doubtful.
Libtards see nothing they do in correlation to 1984 Inner Party members.
Erasing history is what socialists do. Someday people will look back a nd wonder how these fuching totalitarians were able to get away with all the stuff they did.
Is that a dude or just a butt-ugly woman????
“We in the South mark and care for Union graves. It would never occur to us to not respect war dead.”
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The gulf abides. It always will. There were reasons it rose to killing, and reasons why it will again.
“....This is beyond the pale and positively indecent.”
Way beyond. This one stings a good bit as my great-grandfather and his brothers served at Gettysburg. One great-uncle was captured at some point during Pickett’s Charge and another was wounded.
The wounded great-uncle never fully recovered and died in a West Virginia hospital. Due to an unintentional onsite calamity, his grave site and other casualties were eventually consolidated in a mass grave.
My understanding is that though access is restricted, the burial site is treated with honor and respect.
Well, as the old saying goes, The south will rise again.. This time it will include all the flyover states and will basically be against New York, California, and a few other non-free states. Without revenue from the free states where all the actual productivity occurs they will not be able to afford BBs, much less real ammo.
When Kavanaugh is confirmed, and when the Democrat/Left fails a few weeks from now to regain power in Congress well quickly see just how far the Left is prepared to go.
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They’re going to go berserk.
The total deaths in those 3 combined is less than that of Andersonville — the worst was Elmira, which still had a lower mortality rate than Andersonville. Both sides had fairly terrible logistics and diverted supplies, medical personnel, etc, from prisons to other purposes. There was of course some instances of deliberate brutality on both sides but generally conditions just sucked.
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