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Prelude To A New Civil War?
The American Conservative ^ | 04-04-2018 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 10/04/2018 3:55:06 PM PDT by NRx

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To: CaptainMorgantown

I liked the saying so much, I had to look that up:

http://www.public-art.umich.edu/the_collection/campus/central/57


61 posted on 10/04/2018 5:42:00 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: NRx

I think even many people who want real confederate monuments to be removed would think that Madison went too far. And many who want them retained would think that Dreher goes a bit too far here.


62 posted on 10/04/2018 5:44:53 PM PDT by x
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To: Repeal The 17th

Meaning?


63 posted on 10/04/2018 5:46:15 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: NRx

The Madison Capital Times article is here:

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/city-council-overturns-landmarks-commission-call-orders-removal-of-confederate/article_76faa8a8-b740-525c-81f0-528a674b2307.html

It will just tick you off even more.

“There are white supremacists in our federal government and Klansmen in our streets. Things that might have been acceptable before Charlottesville are no longer OK,” Levitan said, referring to the violent 2017 white supremacists rally in Virginia that resulted in one death.”


64 posted on 10/04/2018 5:46:37 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You want to wipe out history?
It works both ways.
Lots of yankee graves in the south.


65 posted on 10/04/2018 5:50:44 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: kaehurowing

Hear, hear. My ancestors fought for family, neighbors and their home. They were poor and didn’t own much...let alone slaves.


66 posted on 10/04/2018 5:52:43 PM PDT by WHATNEXT?
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s what I figured. I suggest you rethink what you’re saying. It’s wrong what these commie in Madison and elsewhere are doing. But it isn’t conservatives who are trying to erase history. By making vulgar comments about Union soldiers, you aren’t lashing out at the people who are destroying Confederate monuments and graves. You’re lashing out at American war dead in the exact same way as the people tearing down monuments.


67 posted on 10/04/2018 5:54:24 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Repeal The 17th

You misunderstood.


68 posted on 10/04/2018 5:58:02 PM PDT by WHATNEXT?
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To: Repeal The 17th

Nobody here at FR wants to wipe out history.


69 posted on 10/04/2018 5:59:14 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

English or Spanish please.


70 posted on 10/04/2018 6:02:10 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: WHATNEXT?

Yeah, my ancestor was actually a British subject, but fought for the Confederacy because he was living in Georgia when the war started. At the end of the war he and his troops refused to surrender and they fled into Mexico. He went from there to London, and then from London to British Columbia. Technically he could have been hanged if the Union captured him, but that never happened. Needless to say, he didn’t give a rip about slavery.


71 posted on 10/04/2018 6:11:59 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: NRx

Agree.


72 posted on 10/04/2018 6:27:25 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: x

I gave you a good source.

To Die in Chicago.

Read it.


73 posted on 10/04/2018 6:40:16 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: GreyFriar
Ah, the democrat socialist/communists of Madison, Wisconsin follow their “Father Stalin’s” methods of erasing history.

True.

74 posted on 10/04/2018 6:41:09 PM PDT by zot
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

1. There is some dispute about the number of deaths at both Point Lookout and Camp Douglas. There may be at Elmira too but I haven’t read as much about that one.

2. The difference is one of intent. The entire CSA was suffering from a shortage of food and medicine at that time. The same cannot be said for the POW camps in the North.


75 posted on 10/04/2018 6:42:06 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: NRx

America is too fat for a civil war. What a joke. There is not one person that would even comprehend the result of displacing what we have now.

A civil war to replace what we have now would be years of factional death and finally the strong men would take control. Then we’d all feel the boot on our neck.


76 posted on 10/04/2018 6:42:33 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: NRx

You forget they’re against guns and we are not


77 posted on 10/04/2018 6:54:58 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: NRx
Following the Battle of Gettysburg, the Confederate dead were buried along the roads, shoved into trenches, or consigned to common graves. The Southerners were seen as traitorous invaders and their bodies were not accorded the respect afforded the men in blue. One newspaper reporter wrote: "The poor Confederate dead were left in the fields as outcasts and criminals that did not merit decent sepulture." President Lincoln's immortal words were not spoken over their unattended, and unmarked, graves. Reacting to the lack of proper burial for these Southern soldiers left at Gettysburg, the Southern states launched efforts to return the bodies of their sons to their native states following the end of the War Between the States. In Richmond, the Hollywood Memorial Association started a fund drive to secure the money to bring the Confederate dead from Gettysburg to Richmond for reburial in Hollywood Cemetery.

Most of the Southern dead were brought home, and memorialized by, Southern women.
If anyone should defend the existence of said monuments, it's those great-great-great granddaughters...
78 posted on 10/04/2018 7:09:04 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: glennaro

It will be then, that they will find out just how far people like me are willing and prepared to go.


79 posted on 10/04/2018 7:45:08 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ There needs to be a quieting of the screaming lambs.)
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To: MeganC
The Democrats have no shame and no decency.


These modern Democrats are starting to resemble the minions of Pol Pot.
80 posted on 10/04/2018 8:46:22 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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