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Prelude To A New Civil War?
The American Conservative ^ | 04-04-2018 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 10/04/2018 3:55:06 PM PDT by NRx

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To: Repeal The 17th

You misunderstood. Sal basically said that the town does not deserve to have the remains if they cannot properly honor said remains.


41 posted on 10/04/2018 4:55:43 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: NRx

New?


42 posted on 10/04/2018 4:56:24 PM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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To: NRx

Why do we have all these monuments throughout the U.S.?

No it has nothing to do with Jim Crow.

It comes from a speech a (Northerner) president, McKinley, made in a speech in Atlanta Georgia in I believe 1898. McKinley said it was time to bury the hatchet on the Civil War and that the dead and veterans of both sides needed to be honored.

That triggered a huge public response and monuments to the Civil War veterans, both North and South, began to be constructed throughout the country.

People forget there is even a monument to the Confederate war dead at Arlington.


43 posted on 10/04/2018 4:58:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Himyar
Yes, and it is appreciated. A young man (Union) went as a paid substitute for my great-grandfather (have related this several years ago on FR). I sent for his civil war records, and he died of disease in Louisiana. Later I found his name in the Baton Rouge National Cemetery.

Were it not for his sacrifice and suffering, I and other cloe relatives might not be here. My gr grandfather had a son not too long after he died and named him after the one who died in Louisiana. That gr gr uncle went gold prospecting in Alaska, never married, and my father met him in Alaska during WWII where my father was serving.

There is a Confederate Cemetery on Rock Island Arsenal island where the former prison was located (mentoned in Margaret Mitchell's novel). Ashley, the love of Scarlett O'Hara until she was captivated by Rhett. I think Ashley may have survived, not sure. The cemetery is maintained and a ceremony every Memorial Day. I hope it continues.

This desecration is politically motivated, but the grounds are probably valuable real estate.

44 posted on 10/04/2018 5:01:11 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: NRx

This is over reaction.


45 posted on 10/04/2018 5:02:09 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: kaehurowing
That' not why they're doing this. Both sides had many POWs die, it was just the nature of internment at the time. They're doing it because they're classless commie bastards who want to annihilate and pointedly disrespect the memory of men they arbitrarily hate.

The only Confederate monument here in MA, also to POWs, was uprooted a few years ago by our RINO governor Baker.

46 posted on 10/04/2018 5:02:42 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: FLT-bird

They weren’t murdered, they died under conditions that existed in POW camps on both sides of the war — proximity, lack of nutrition and disease. 1860s simply wasn’t a great time to end up in a prison of any kind if you wanted a long life.


47 posted on 10/04/2018 5:05:11 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: NRx

Only the dead have seen the end of war.

When I toured Europe, Luxembourg to be exact, I wet to see the American cemetery where General George S. Patton was laid to rest. It was immaculate and pristine as Augusta during the Masters.

Not far away was a German military cemetery. The markers were not well kept, the cemetery not in great shape and a marker was shared by 4 German soldiers.

Luxembourg had no reason to let the Germans maintain a military cemetery in their nation that had been occupied and conquered during the war. However there was some humanity in the gesture and a finality that the war had been laid to rest.

If only the American left knew the war was over. Instead they seem intent on inflaming the next one.


48 posted on 10/04/2018 5:09:49 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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To: waterhill

You speak for Salvavida? That’s cool...
The property at Andersonville would grow good peanuts.
Just need a bulldozer to clear it all out.


49 posted on 10/04/2018 5:11:38 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

The conditions in the federal death camps where adequate food, clothing and medicine was not a problem were entirely avoidable.

Read “to Die in Chicago” about the awful Camp Douglas or read about Point Lookout or Elmira aka “Hellmira” and tell me the perpetrators shouldn’t have been charged with murder. Men were rightfully convicted at Nuremburg on less evidence.


50 posted on 10/04/2018 5:12:32 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: NRx
More a postlude to the old Civil War ...
51 posted on 10/04/2018 5:14:08 PM PDT by x
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To: FLT-bird; rockrr
Men were rightfully convicted at Nuremburg on less evidence.

Doubtful.

52 posted on 10/04/2018 5:16:32 PM PDT by x
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To: NRx

Libtards see nothing they do in correlation to 1984 Inner Party members.

Erasing history is what socialists do. Someday people will look back a nd wonder how these fuching totalitarians were able to get away with all the stuff they did.


53 posted on 10/04/2018 5:18:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: glennaro
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54 posted on 10/04/2018 5:26:00 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Is that a dude or just a butt-ugly woman????


55 posted on 10/04/2018 5:26:05 PM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: Himyar

“We in the South mark and care for Union graves. It would never occur to us to not respect war dead.”

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The gulf abides. It always will. There were reasons it rose to killing, and reasons why it will again.


56 posted on 10/04/2018 5:27:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The 2016 foreign meddling came from UKistan, and is a weasel borne plague.)
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To: NRx

“....This is beyond the pale and positively indecent.”

Way beyond. This one stings a good bit as my great-grandfather and his brothers served at Gettysburg. One great-uncle was captured at some point during Pickett’s Charge and another was wounded.
The wounded great-uncle never fully recovered and died in a West Virginia hospital. Due to an unintentional onsite calamity, his grave site and other casualties were eventually consolidated in a mass grave.
My understanding is that though access is restricted, the burial site is treated with honor and respect.


57 posted on 10/04/2018 5:34:31 PM PDT by Huaynero
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To: NRx

Well, as the old saying goes, “The south will rise again.”. This time it will include all the flyover states and will basically be against New York, California, and a few other non-free states. Without revenue from the free states where all the actual productivity occurs they will not be able to afford BBs, much less real ammo.


58 posted on 10/04/2018 5:35:20 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: glennaro

When Kavanaugh is confirmed, and when the Democrat/Left fails a few weeks from now to regain power in Congress we’ll quickly see just how far the Left is prepared to go.

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They’re going to go berserk.


59 posted on 10/04/2018 5:36:12 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: FLT-bird

The total deaths in those 3 combined is less than that of Andersonville — the worst was Elmira, which still had a lower mortality rate than Andersonville. Both sides had fairly terrible logistics and diverted supplies, medical personnel, etc, from prisons to other purposes. There was of course some instances of deliberate brutality on both sides but generally conditions just sucked.

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60 posted on 10/04/2018 5:40:00 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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