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INSIGHT FROM MY HONDURAN HALF OF THE FAMILY ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (Vanity)
My Family | 29 Oct 2018 | Salvavida

Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida

My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.

Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.

A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:

- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."

- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.

- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..

- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)

- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?

(Hint: DJT's politics)

B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:

- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.

- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.

- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.

C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):

There are no consequences.

No government form of ID is required to get housing.

No one comes after an over-stayed visa.

Access to school is free.

Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.

D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; honduras; hondurascaravan; illegalsinvasion; immigration; invasion
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To: Salvavida

If they really thought no one was against them they wouldn’t have put up such a front about it. Liars.


61 posted on 10/30/2018 1:24:41 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: Salvavida

Bump


62 posted on 10/30/2018 2:03:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Salvavida
"She is a lawyer, he is an accountant"

My family immigrated from Cuba after the failure of the Bay of Pigs. My half brother was part of the invasion (paratroopers) and my family housed his platoon until they were captured and returned to the US.

My father was a lawyer in Cuba; they were not needed under Castro and communism. When we came to America he took a job at 7-11 since law does not "transfer" from one country to another. I was seven, the oldest of three boys, and he was 50.

We did not come here as economic refugees but as ideologic refugees. Of the initial group of Cuban immigrants fewer than 2% took public assistance. Many did rely on Churches and friends and family. I believe the Vietnamese immigrants also came without seeking welfare but freedom.

My heart feels for these people stuck in socialist controlled and dominated countries. We tried to fight for Cuba but recognized that if we did not leave after the invasion failed we would never get out. I give thanks to God and the US that my parents were able to come legally.

I wish there was something like a, "Marshall Plan" to help our southern hemisphere. China and Russia are there.

63 posted on 10/30/2018 2:29:25 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Salvavida

(D) sounds like a fair description of a zombie mob, as well as putting the lie to the first part of (A-2).


64 posted on 10/30/2018 2:57:01 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Salvavida

Salvavida, forgot to add, E.

E. They’ve been coached that if they can get to an ER, after their water breaks, and have a kid in an American hospital, bill being paid the taxpayers and other patients, that their spawn automatically becomes a citizen of the United States of America. And being one, that child is eligible for all the goodies, courtesy of the US Taxpayer. Every hospital has social workers, etc that will get the kid a Social Security number and then walk the mother through the process of applying for and getting their infant, US Citizen, all the goodies: Section 8, SNAP, TANF, WIC, Medicare card. And then, under family reunification, they can reel up their entire extended family from wherever they came from and then destroy every neighborhood they take over.


65 posted on 10/30/2018 3:19:44 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: caww

How many days after the election will we have to wait for Sessions to rise from his dead-like trance?


66 posted on 10/30/2018 3:31:26 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Salvavida

Good points. My wife came to the US legally and is 100% against illegals. She is a proud American and a solid Trumper!


67 posted on 10/30/2018 3:35:57 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: Salvavida
My brother-in-law is from Honduras also and is completely against illegals coming here. And he knows all to well what economic level they represent. Of course he's been here since the mid 60's and was (now retired) a well respected Oncologist in the medical community here.

You don't have college educated doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers or programers in those caravans. Those who want to are already here......

And as a side note, he had a nephew who was a physician in Honduras and it took him almost 10 years to finally get a travel visa to come and visit.......and he had to jump thru all kinds of hoops to get it, primarily to insure that he would return to Honduras following his visit...........

68 posted on 10/30/2018 4:01:39 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Salvavida

Thank you


69 posted on 10/30/2018 4:26:22 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: CaptainK

I’m sure they imagine that the language problem here is temporary and will more like Mexico eventually.


70 posted on 10/30/2018 5:29:39 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: UpInArms

I’ve often though that we SHOULD go invade and take over one Ctrl/Sth American country.

Maybe it would help the rest get their shit straight. Straighten up or get taken over.

There’s some beautiful land and resources down there. Imagine how nice the place would be with proper infrastructure. Things like sewage treatment instead of people pooping in a pit that leads to the river that they bath in.


71 posted on 10/30/2018 6:18:13 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Salvavida

They elect good looking crooked men full of bravado as is the habit of Hispanics.

not my problem


72 posted on 10/30/2018 6:29:38 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Salvavida
Remember, there are no consequences.

Yes Indeed.

73 posted on 10/30/2018 6:39:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Salvavida

Bump for an extremely informative post. Thank you for taking the time to make it.


74 posted on 10/30/2018 6:54:05 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: qaz123
Dropping a baby on US soil was not part of the conversations, but, it is unwritten and unspoken that the best way to permanently change the trajectory of a family is to do just that: have a baby on US soil, thus "anchoring" their future.

Congress has utterly failed us.

75 posted on 10/30/2018 7:03:48 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida; <1/1,000,000th%; 1217Chic; 1Old Pro; 1_Rain_Drop; 20yearsofinternet; 2rightsleftcoast; ..
What an incredibly valuable post. MAGA BIGLY list ping

Graduate & Professional Degree ping

76 posted on 10/30/2018 7:42:29 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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To: TomGuy
Many from countries around the world come here and then spend the rest of their lives trying to convert their little piece of the US into the same kind of s*ithole they left.

Just like the northern liberals moving to the South or Texas.

77 posted on 10/30/2018 7:45:00 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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To: Albion Wilde

I saw that, it is a very insightful post. I found interesting that they have a VAT tax instead of system of individual taxation, so those people don’t understand why taxpayers here get upset about the costs of the invaders. They think everything is free. Very uneducated people.


78 posted on 10/30/2018 7:52:20 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Salvavida; LucyT

Ping


79 posted on 10/30/2018 7:52:57 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT ( Amos5: Hate evil, love good, And establish justice in the (gate) Court.)
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To: Salvavida

Thanks for your insight.

My heart is with the dear Hondurans.

We make annual medical trips to Honduras - up in the mountains. Sweetest people ever. They are very thankful for any help.

The Hospital in Tegucigalpa has 3 children to a bed in a ward lined with beds. Bless their hearts. They need help.

Their world is disparate.


80 posted on 10/30/2018 8:00:52 AM PDT by Kay
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