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1 posted on 10/30/2018 8:33:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Trump said point-blank on TV that the troops are going to be building huge tents to hold people, who will be waiting for amnesty processing.

Now, for legal reasons amnesty could be denied to 100% of them but the point absolutely IS that Trump’s plans do include permitting them —maybe all of them— onto US territory.

So US decision makers ARE planning for that Caravan to physically reach the US border and to cross over. That gives the left an opportunity to orchestrate a violent confrontation with US troops.

If the bullet doesn’t come from our side, the left WILL supply it, then blame our side, and the media will absolutely fall into line.

I am wondering:

Does Trump WANT them to cross, the better to build public outrage and support for The Wall..?


2 posted on 10/30/2018 8:35:33 AM PDT by gaijin
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If your parents are not citizens, and have not arrived LEGALLY then how can you become a citizen?

If you travel on an airplane JUST TO arrive here to give birth, then you should also not be a citizen.

NO OTHER COUNTRY does that. That’s all Trump needs to say. And just do it.

Let them squeal like the little pleasure piggies they are.


3 posted on 10/30/2018 8:37:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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After the Civil War there was a new question:

What of the voting rights of newly freed slaves..?

The North wanted them to be voters.

It would be a little too direct to write a law saying, “Hey EVEN black people can vote..”

They made it more indirect:

“If you were born in the USA, then you can vote in the USA”

I believe if a foreign diplomat has kids born in the USA, they are specifically exempted from this voting benefit —they CANNOT vote and are not Americans.

Birth Citizenship originally had NOTHING to do with people coming here and then having kids, it was about BLACK PEOPLE.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 8:39:48 AM PDT by gaijin
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Obama use an EO for DACA. I don’t remember the left caring then.


6 posted on 10/30/2018 8:41:22 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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If President Trump is going to try and end birthright citizenship via executive order I hope he takes a sobering few minutes to share a detailed and clear civics lesson, point by point, why this is correct interpretation of the 14th amendment, why he has the authority, and why now. I agree with the long overdue action, but fear a debacle if put out there without explanation, leaving interpretation to the media. And I say try, because if not clear in action, he’ll have this stopped by the court before the ink has dried. Too bad we cannot revoke any received in the past but I suspect that would be a non-starter.


10 posted on 10/30/2018 8:45:09 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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FINALLY!!!


12 posted on 10/30/2018 8:48:13 AM PDT by LTC.Ret
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Make it retroactive 50 years and drop fliers on the caravans.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 8:48:45 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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“The Washington Post reports...”

Translation:

“Stop reading now. You’re wasting your time, because everything you’re about to read is propaganda.”


18 posted on 10/30/2018 8:51:14 AM PDT by Pravious
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"“It’s in the process. It’ll happen . . . with an executive order,” I sure hope this happens. The USA is overloaded right now, ….. way over capacity. These illegals are going to have to go and straighten out their own Country. The USA is over loaded and no more can be accepted. Game Over for the Gravy Train.
19 posted on 10/30/2018 8:52:37 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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Trump finally will use the executive order and he must declare the Federal Judges guilty of treason if they fight it. Time to kick these rotten communists judges in the ars. Trump has the power to ignore these Judges.
20 posted on 10/30/2018 8:55:03 AM PDT by Logical me
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Leftists want to point to the poor, downtrodden, Central American mammas struggling to survive and having babies in the USA.

But what about the Chinese “Birthing Centers” in LA and New York? In this case, wealthy Chinese women, who arrive on tourist visas, pay $50-$100K, to live in a private apartment/maternity ward for 6 weeks. They have their baby, and it is immediately granted a US passport. Then the whole family goes back to China. Of course, if there are any complications, the woman is sent to a public hospital, where taxpayers pay for all her expenses.

Is that right? Is that compassionate? is that just?


21 posted on 10/30/2018 8:56:33 AM PDT by PGR88
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The lesson was learned long ago and is still true:

http://www.historynet.com/war-behind-the-wire-koje-do-prison-camp.htm

American experience with prisoners in Korea...no matter how well-intentioned... it’s lose/lose


23 posted on 10/30/2018 8:57:25 AM PDT by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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Thank God almighty, we finally have a real PRESIDENT.
25 posted on 10/30/2018 9:14:19 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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It’s in the Constitution. Executive Order VS Constitution. Constitution wins. Try something else.


27 posted on 10/30/2018 9:15:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The country is suffering from a hysterical obsession with race, skin color and national origin.)
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To: SeekAndFind; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Arthur Wildfire! March; LS; ...

In my view the line in the 14th “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means no birthright citizenship for children born of

1)Illegal Aliens
2)Foreign Diplomats
3)Tourists

I don’t think the authors of that amendment stuck that line in there cause they were overly concerned with a tiny number of diplomat’s kids getting citizenship.

All we need is a Supreme Court to agree.


30 posted on 10/30/2018 9:32:05 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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Even if my interpretation is not correct (waiting on legal scholars to weigh in), it should prevail anyway, libs twist the Constitution into pretzels whenever it suits them (see Roe V Wade, Dread Scott V. Sanford and a hundred other ridiculous decisions), it’s the only way we’ll ever be rid of anchor babies. The 14th amendment is not a suicide pact.


34 posted on 10/30/2018 9:41:54 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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Birthright citizenship is only for children of parents in the country “under the jurisdiction...” (14th amendment)


41 posted on 10/30/2018 10:14:22 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Trump is making the Presidency Great Again. I haven’t seen a president like Trump since Ronnie...


44 posted on 10/30/2018 10:17:47 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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Unfortunately it is about 25-million children and thousands of dysfunctional elementary schools too late...


52 posted on 10/30/2018 11:20:35 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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