Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Maybe America Just Wants To Have A Parliamentary System?
Townhall.com ^ | November 2, 2018 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/02/2018 10:23:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

Americans, God bless 'em, revere the Constitution even if they disagree on what it says.

Heck, they revere the Constitution even when they don't know what it says. More than a third of Americans surveyed by the Annenberg Center for Public Policy in 2017 couldn't name a single freedom enumerated in the First Amendment. Only 26 percent could name all three branches of government, and 33 percent couldn't name a single branch.

But they love the Constitution nonetheless.

The thing is, the Constitution isn't magic. Its power derives from the power we invest in it. In the 19th century, a bunch of Latin American countries were inspired by the U.S. and borrowed heavily from our presidential system (as opposed to the parliamentary system). It's a complicated story -- stories, actually -- but suffice it to say, it didn't work out. Different people, different cultures, different expectations.

Our system was designed for the people on the ground, and even then we've made a whole bunch of modifications since 1789.

For instance, the president and vice president were originally the first and second finishers in the election. That mistake was corrected with the 12th amendment in 1804. The 13th, 14th and 15th amendments rectified the moral stain of slavery (at least formally). The 17th amendment required that senators be elected by voters, not state legislatures. The 19th amendment allowed women to vote.

In other words, we've been shedding the small-r republican character of the Constitution, which balanced the small-d democratic part. This can get confusing, but the first thing to keep in mind is that the capital-letter Republican and Democratic parties are not particularly representative of either perspective.

As Randy Barnett explains in "Our Republican Constitution," both traditions celebrate "We the People." But for the small d-democrats, "We the People" translates as the "Will of the People." For small-r republicans, the Constitution is there to protect the inalienable rights of the sovereign individuals who make up We the People. In a proper republic, leaders are elected, but they are responsible for protecting the constitutional order even when the will of the people demands otherwise.

Both parties have small r-republicans and small r-democrats in them. And both parties tend to emphasize whichever perspective benefits them in a given moment.

But there's an additional problem with the republican tradition in America. Whereas it once spoke to the idea that leaders might have to defy the will of the people to protect our rights, today it also manifests itself as a kind of aristocratic elitism.

Officials defy both individual rights and the will of the people for our "own good." From Woodrow Wilson's "war socialism" to the New Deal and the Great Society, elected officials did what they thought was right, heedless of democratic or republican restraints. Whether these were good policies is beside the point. The TARP bailout started by George W. Bush and continued by Barack Obama was probably necessary, but the Constitution and public opinion were afterthoughts. If Donald Trump tries to repeal birthright citizenship by executive order, it would be unconstitutional and undemocratic, even if you think it's the correct policy.

And that brings me to the parliamentary tide. In parliamentary systems, the people elect parties and the parties elect their leaders. The ever-widening gyre of partisan polarization seems to be pushing us toward that kind of system. Democrats vote "blue," Republicans "red."

Trump and the Democrats want the midterms to be a referendum on him. Democrats increasingly spew venom at the Senate as undemocratic because big states and small alike get the same number of senators. During the mail-bomb episode, congressional party leaders issued joint GOP and Democratic statements, whereas traditionally leaders would issue bipartisan statements from each body of Congress.

In short, voters and politicians alike are behaving as if we live under a different system than the one in the Constitution. Why? I have too many guesses to list here, but among the top suspects: a failure to teach civics, a breakdown of civil society and the institutions that traditionally keep politics local, and the increasing tendency of people to see politics as their "identity."

I think all of these trends are calamitous, and not just because I'm a constitutionalist. There's no reason to believe that even if we redesigned the Constitution along parliamentary lines the people would be satisfied. Parliamentary systems aren't any better at fixing such problems. A parliamentary system might just be a way station on our descent to an even uglier form of zero-sum politics.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

1 posted on 11/02/2018 10:23:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Harumph harrumph harrumph


2 posted on 11/02/2018 10:26:08 AM PDT by null and void (Don't argue with the keyboard warriors. They know their delusions better than you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Jonah marches further toward irrelevance.

Would he be writing this if HRC were elected?


3 posted on 11/02/2018 10:27:44 AM PDT by oblomov
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

This putz doesn’t like deplorables. What a surprise. Stop blinking on tv, Jonah, and wash your hair once in a while.


4 posted on 11/02/2018 10:29:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I have to admit, watching Barry Obama being forced to face Question Time would have been fun.


5 posted on 11/02/2018 10:33:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oblomov

Whatever..
I voted republican only because Sarah Palin was on the Ticket

I voted republican only because Trump was on the ticket.

People matter.

To leave the President to be elected by the ‘leaders’ of the party is how they do it in the EU, and results in the feeling that the vote doesn’t matter.

Oh, wait.. I just figured out the author is an Euro-weeny.


6 posted on 11/02/2018 10:33:17 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

There is only one potential upside to a parliamentary system of government and that is you have multiple parties instead of a two party system. However even in this system the minor parties need to form a coalition and you basically devolve into two parties.


7 posted on 11/02/2018 10:34:07 AM PDT by LukeL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
"The 17th amendment required that senators be elected by voters, not state legislatures. The 19th amendment allowed women to vote."

Well, there's strike one and strike two....

8 posted on 11/02/2018 10:38:51 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

When I saw the author, I forced myself to read it, thinking maybe, he’d make some sense. Nope.

Still just a sore loser, Never Trump Moron.

Whole article is about the Republican’s winning the election so they could have elected, Jeb, and stacked all the leadership with Thune, Cornyn, Issacson, Corker, Flake, Rubio...basically everyone Donald J Trump bitch slapped on his way to the White House, thank the Lord.


9 posted on 11/02/2018 10:40:41 AM PDT by qaz123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Cuck.


10 posted on 11/02/2018 10:41:42 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Of course Jonah wants a parliamentary system, so they could do a motion of non-confidence to depose Trump.


11 posted on 11/02/2018 10:42:28 AM PDT by Shadow44
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
"Our system was designed for the people on the ground"

Our Republic was designed for a religious, God fearing people.. None other need apply...

12 posted on 11/02/2018 10:42:44 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Heck, they revere the Constitution even when they don’t know what it says. More than a third of Americans surveyed by the Annenberg Center for Public Policy in 2017 couldn’t name a single freedom enumerated in the First Amendment. Only 26 percent could name all three branches of government, and 33 percent couldn’t name a single branch.
_____________________________________________________________

Ummmm...seems the problem is with education, not voters! For a smart man, Goldberg can be pretty stupid.


13 posted on 11/02/2018 10:45:53 AM PDT by marstegreg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

I support the assumption of full plenary powers , to President Trump , for a period of an additional 10 years . Keep America Great! ( and screw Congress and liberal judges )


14 posted on 11/02/2018 10:46:30 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marstegreg
Only 26 percent could name all three branches of government, and 33 percent couldn’t name a single branch.

Schoolhouse Rock. Need it now more than ever.


15 posted on 11/02/2018 10:47:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
"A failure to teach civics, a breakdown of civil society and the institutions that traditionally keep politics local.

Like I said in post #8, The 17th. was a killer...

16 posted on 11/02/2018 10:48:21 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein

And we don’t like him! Never-trumper go away!


17 posted on 11/02/2018 10:49:58 AM PDT by Lopeover (POTUS needs Republicans, the Midterm Election is about allegiance to the America First agenda!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

There is nothing in the Constitution requiring two parties.


18 posted on 11/02/2018 10:50:02 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

The left can’t get the votes to change the constitution to suit them so the hell with the constitution. Simple as that.


19 posted on 11/02/2018 10:50:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
A smug, very supercilious & superficial patronization, by one who is confused & off the mark in what he writes. That our educational system in contemporary America has turned out a population that is politically less informed than that of the 1840s is truly sad; but Jonah does not really show any depth of understanding of either the causation, or any acceptable alternative.

The piece is nothing but a distraction from the focus necessary to bring out the Conservative vote, next Tuesday. That must be our focus for the weekend!

20 posted on 11/02/2018 10:52:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson