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Trump suggests France would have been defeated without U.S.
The Columbian ^ | November 13, 2018 | Darlene Superville, The Associated Press

Posted on 11/13/2018 10:53:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Donald Trump escalated his verbal assaults against France on Tuesday, suggesting that America’s stalwart European ally would have been vanquished in both world wars if not for the military firepower provided by the United States.

Trump tweeted about a suggestion by French President Emmanuel Macron that Europe build up its militaries because the continent can no longer depend on the U.S. for defense. Macron had also said Europe needs to protect itself against cyberthreats from China, Russia and the U.S.

Macron’s comments were inaccurately reported and Trump continues to misrepresent them, seemingly for political hay. The French leader’s office said Trump had lumped together Macron’s remarks on protecting against cyber-threats and “interference in our democracies” from “China, Russia and even the United States” with Macron’s later statement on military defense....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: france; macron; trump; ww2
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To: DownInFlames; Regulator

See my previous post.


141 posted on 11/13/2018 6:16:17 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump suggests France would have been defeated without U.S.

OF COURSE!

Next.

142 posted on 11/13/2018 6:16:58 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought this was a plain fact, at least in WWII. They were defeated.


143 posted on 11/13/2018 6:17:06 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump suggests France would have been defeated without U.S.

France has already lost. They were occupied and all of Europe was basically defeated by the Nazis and it was only a matter of time before England would have gone under.

Not just France but would all of Europe and England have been Nazi subjects if not for the U.S.?

OF COURSE!

Next.

144 posted on 11/13/2018 6:22:32 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: FLT-bird; DesertRhino
It goes way beyond the trucks and locomotives. The amount of food and material we sent the Soviets was astounding.

Lend Lease to Russia From Major Jordan' Diaries
(NY: Harcourt, Brace, 1952) Chapter Nine

145 posted on 11/13/2018 6:23:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ealgeone
France was defeated in about six weeks by Germany in 1940.

Is that the length of time it took for the nazis to walk across the country?

146 posted on 11/13/2018 6:29:51 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Is Paris burning?


147 posted on 11/13/2018 7:23:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: DesertRhino

If you remember, Operation Barbarossa started late due to the fact Hitler had to bail out Mussolini and his adventures in Greece. Had that not happened and Hitler advanced on Russia with the original time table, things might have been different.

I used to live in a farm house with an old panzer man that says he was there from Poland through Czechoslovakia in ‘45. Anyway, he says his unit was behind Moscow ready to squeeze the pincers when it began to fall apart.


148 posted on 11/13/2018 10:05:28 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yes I know!

I wrote a previous FR post about the French Army mutiny of 1917. Pointing out this occurred after Verdun, Somme & 2nd Battle of the Aisne & that the Aisne battle was the breaking point. The thing that kind of help hold things together for the French Army was Petain’s leadership (yes him!) and the anticipation of the US entry. If we had stayed out, in my opinion the French Army would have collapsed and their would have likely been a negotiated settlement. I doubt if the British could have stopped it or even had the internal (by that date!) political will to try. It would have left Imperial Germany dominant on the continent but with a Social Revolutionary to Bolshevik Russia at their east. Might have been a better result for Europe & the world. Read the book “Myths of WWI” has some interesting & surprising commentary on all the participating armies.


149 posted on 11/14/2018 6:10:51 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

the book might be titles “Myths of the Great War”!
Its been awhile since I read it.


150 posted on 11/14/2018 6:11:38 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

This one? Looks interesting.

https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Great-War-Military-History-ebook/dp/B004G5ZY4M


151 posted on 11/14/2018 6:34:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yes that’s it!
very interesting take on WWI!


152 posted on 11/14/2018 6:36:01 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

Thanks


153 posted on 11/14/2018 6:44:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Crucial

I was thinking of WW1.


154 posted on 11/14/2018 4:16:35 PM PST by Crucial
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