Posted on 11/13/2018 7:03:00 PM PST by yesthatjallen
Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), a top progressive Democrat in the House, on Tuesday called for hearings and a vote on "Medicare for all" legislation now that her party has taken back the House.
“We are going to be pushing for it to get a hearing...to have this debate on the floor,” Jayapal said on an organizing call with the National Nurses United union on Tuesday night.
Jayapal, who is co-chair of the Medicare for All caucus in the House, said it is not enough for Democrats to just say they are cosponsors of Medicare for All. Now that Democrats have won back the House, she said, “when we have that majority we need to make sure that we put it to use.”
However, House Democratic leadership has not expressed a willingness to hold a vote on Medicare for All, and top leaders have not signed onto the legislation.
Organizers from liberal groups, led by National Nurses United, said on the call that they are going to be organizing grassroots support, including phone calls especially targeting the the 13 House Democrats on the key committees of Ways and Means and Energy and Commerce who they said have not signed onto the Medicare for All bill yet.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the idea’s leading champion, also joined the call and called for “massive grassroots support” to push for Medicare for all.
Jayapal told The Hill earlier Tuesday that she and other members of the Medicare for All caucus are working on a revised version of the legislation, known as H.R. 676, which she hopes to come to agreement on “over the next month” to be ready for introduction in the next session of Congress.
But....but....the TRUTH doesn’t matter....we WANT IT!
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That’s one reason that to the Left, Truth is whatever they want it to be. The facts and logic be damned.
Let’s call it what it is.single payer government healthcare . The end of innovation and first rate medical care. Also the end of our economy trying to pay for it. What’s not to like?
Amen to that. My wife and I just went onto Medicare (as required by current law) and find that Medicare is indeed a death panel. Medicare won't pay for two expensive drugs we were covered for under our previous insurance. They were the only drugs that worked for us (we tried several others which were ineffective). The quacks sitting behind a desk in D.C. want us to play Russian Roulette with other unproven and cheaper drugs. IOW, they want us to die so we'll quit sucking up benefits we paid for.
You have hit the nail on the head. Baby Boomers of my ilk are increasingly seen as useless consumers and in the way of younger generations.
Doesnt matter if we do have the money to pay for it. It would be a cluster***k of a system plus we’d lose some personal freedoms as those who pay the bills, calls the shots. In this case, the government. If they take your place in paying your bills for you, medical or not, its got its hooks into you and make you jump through all sorts of bureaucratic hoops in order for you to get your health care. That is, IF they let you get your health care.
I agree as a matter of theory, but in practical reality, my late mother did quite well under Medicare. I haven’t met many seniors, no matter how strongly Republican, who want it taken away.
“the end of our economy trying to pay for it”
How come so few of my fellow Republicans have the same complaint about our endless foreign wars? Nobody asked George Bush where would he get the money to invade Iraq. (A war that cost trillions) Same with Obama’s regime change in Lybia. And nobody talks about the cost of our neverending war in Afghanistan, the longest in American history. But if someone suggests helping pay for people’s healthcare here at home, “conservatives” suddenly can’t stop moaning about the expense.
The problem with Medicare & social security is the ratio of “those working paying in” vs ‘the retired receiving”. As long as that ratio is high both systems do alright. Let that ratio head toward 1-to-1 and you start having real funding problems, In 1940 it was 159 to 1 now its 2.8 to 1. Medicare is funded similar to SS with one big difference 40% of its funding comes from the general revenue. I can’t find any hard information on the worker/beneficiary ratio. I guess I can estimate it in the following fashion (# of people employed - 130 million)/(# of people retired -66 million ) = 130/66 = 1.97. There’s you problem with Medicare in a nutshell Too few paying in vs the number taking out! Any time the politicians mess up the employment demographics they make it worse!
And yes its all a Ponzi scheme!
That’s a problem only if you insist that it be self funding, instead of subsidized out of general government revenues. I used to think it was wrong and unaffordable to help pay for the health and retirement needs of America’s seniors of general revenues. But I changed my mind over the past 15 years, as we’ve spent trillions and trillions on foreign wars and nation-building (including health care for people in those invaded countries). My fellow Republicans have not complained about those costs - which continue to this day - so I take their concerns about the cost of helping America’s seniors, with a large grain of salt. Also we spend big on European “defense” - so Europe can use their own money to help their seniors. I refuse to continue to be a sucker, and buy the conservative line that we can’t afford Soc Sec and Medicare, but we can afford to blow trillions and trillions on foreign adventures and invasions
Your concern is noted! However if its funding structure continues to be a Ponzi scheme all the concern in the world won’t help! Ponzi schemes are simply fraud, in this case fraud by the government with everyone pretending its not fraud. Its still fraud nonetheless at some point the dance will stop and it will crash and burn.
Wars will eventually end this won’t. But if you are so excited for single payer health care to for it. I don’t think you will like it once you have it
Wars will end? When will our war in Afghanistan end? It’s been going 15 years, at a cost of billions per week. We’re also still fighting in Iraq
As for the horrors of single payer, my late mom, a staunch Republican, had no complaints about her Medicare. None. Even though she opposed the creation of Medicare back in the 60s!
That’s because those with commercial insurance pay higher rates to subsidize the Medicare rates. When there is no longer commercial insurance to pick up the slack you won’t like Medicare so much
Do you have an equal problem with the trillions we’re spending on foreign wars and nation-building (including health care) in the countries we invade?
That has no bearing to the topic at hand but no I do not approve of a lot of what my tax dollars support. It doesn’t change that single payer is and always will be a bad idea
Yes it’s very relevant. If you don’t have a problem with the massive waste of dollars overseas , then your objection to spending money to help people at home in America loses a lot of credibility. If it’s ok to use our tax dollars to overturn Iraq - and provide health care in that country - then there can be no credible objection to using tax dollars for the retirement and health needs of Americans. Indeed, as Trump says, ourvpolicy should be America First
defense and foreign relations are constitutional duties of the government.
Stealing money from me to pay for anyone else’s health care is Unconstitutional.
(Another benefit of wars over there is that we kill more of them that way and we don’t have to fight them here. Now if we were able to close the borders and keep the moslems totally out I’d have no problem at all with pulling out of affairs over there, other than to defend Israel (she keeps the loonies focused over there). Of course if we were going to prosecute a war over there we really need to do it right. Bomb them even further back into the stone age. Conquer their countries, kill their leaders (secular and religious) and convert them all to Christianity.)
wasting trillions of dollars on foreign invasions and nation building is not a constitutional duty of the government. If it were, Reagan was in violation of the constitution, because he didn’t launch any foreign wars
But foreign relations and defense IS a duty of the government.
(BTW, President Reagan invaded Grenada. And is still seen as a hero by the Grenadians(?) to this day.)
Trump disagrees with you. He says our Mideast invasions were a total waste of $7 trillion, and the biggest for reign policy blunder in us history. He says the money could have/should have been used to fix America’s problems, at home
But if you’re ok with reckless, wasteful, unnecessary, multi-trillion-dollar foreign wars, fine;@: but it means you have no credibility complaint about the cost of domestic spending
“Trump hits Bush: ‘Invading Iraq ‘the single worst decision ever made’”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/376605-trump-hits-bush-invading-iraq-the-single-worst-decision-ever-made%3Famp
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