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DoJ Rules That Bump Fire Stocks Are Now Machine Guns, Fall Under NFA Regulation
The Truth About Guns ^ | 11/15/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 11/15/2018 8:06:39 AM PST by Simon Green

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President Trump has now implemented more gun control in his first two years than Obama did in eight.
1 posted on 11/15/2018 8:06:39 AM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Better outlaw those evil rubber bands, too.


2 posted on 11/15/2018 8:07:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: Simon Green

Thank Sessions.

“Q”


3 posted on 11/15/2018 8:08:14 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Simon Green

Since when does the DOJ issue definitions of NFA? That has been the authority of the AFT, a branch of the Treasury department.


4 posted on 11/15/2018 8:12:23 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Simon Green

Many of the AR-15s displayed by the Clark County Sheriff had bi-pods on them. Wouldn’t this negate the advantage of a “bump fire stock?” The weapon could not “recoil” sufficiently to re-charge it, I wouldn’t think. But I’ve never owned a bump stock.


5 posted on 11/15/2018 8:16:40 AM PST by donozark (There are no flamingos in Venezuela.)
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To: ConservativeMind

He is gone, or didn’t you get the memo???


6 posted on 11/15/2018 8:17:39 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: Simon Green

No delegated power for the NFA. It’s all just progressive lawlessness.


7 posted on 11/15/2018 8:20:54 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Department of Justice issued ...

Cowardly bureaucrats. Just like the leftist editorial boards. I want names; they are pubic servants after all. If we had the names, we could at least complain to our elected representatives, sign petitions etc.

Oh, I’ll just leave the tying error.


8 posted on 11/15/2018 8:23:00 AM PST by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rubber bands are far superior to bump-stocks.


9 posted on 11/15/2018 8:25:41 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Simon Green

Idiocy aside, I note that the ruling says “When attached to a firearm”.

So, it is legal when not attached.

This is more of that idiotic stuff, like the ATF claiming that a wrist-brace for a pistol AR is legal, but the second you SHOULDER it, it becomes an SBR.


10 posted on 11/15/2018 8:28:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (A political class that does not follow (and isn't accountable) to law, is a recipe for dictatorship.)
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To: Simon Green

Read the description - it is FALSE.

While using a bump stock, the fire arm remains semi-automatic. To fire a round, it still requires that the trigger be manually operated.

Time for a lawsuit - which 2nd amendment group is going to file? I kind of doubt that it will be the NRA.


11 posted on 11/15/2018 8:29:58 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Simon Green

Technically true I guess


12 posted on 11/15/2018 8:31:52 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Better outlaw those evil rubber bands, too.”

Are shoe strings in or out today? They have been all over the BATFE map in the past.


13 posted on 11/15/2018 8:32:49 AM PST by jeffersondem
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“President Trump has now implemented more gun control in his first two years than Obama did in eight”

He didn’t...Sessions did.


14 posted on 11/15/2018 8:33:01 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: waterhill

Whatever you do, DO NOT tell them about belt loops!


15 posted on 11/15/2018 8:33:45 AM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Simon Green

Read where you can achieve the same thing with bungee cords.


16 posted on 11/15/2018 8:34:46 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: waterhill

Thanks. You’ve just given the feds the justification to arrest anyone they want if that person is in possession of a rubber band. And I don’t make that statement lightly. Stupider things have happened.


17 posted on 11/15/2018 8:35:50 AM PST by Pecos (Better the one you have with you than the one you left at home.)
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To: Rurudyne
Here's a perspective you should be ready to deal with. I'm a constitutionalist, firm believer in 2nd amendment, but have zero interaction with firearms. I hunted on the farm as a kid, and am considering purchase of a handgun for protection, but this action does not concern me.

I understand the ignorance of the general public as it pertains to guns, automatics, etc. I mention this because I'm sure a huge portion of the population shares my sentiment. They ( and I ) think this is no big deal.

The perception of these twice-monthly mass shootings is becoming a problem. Facts won't matter. It's becoming an issue, and I suspect will become more of an elective issue for conservatives. DJT seems to be on the verge of tweaking gun laws to stem the blowback. So, imho, this and tweaks to enforcement, and mental health evaluations are pre-emptive and perhaps helpful 1st steps.

Please advise why I'm misguided, and then evaluate if your argument will hold up against the anti-gunners out there.

18 posted on 11/15/2018 8:36:32 AM PST by chiller (Race should be irrelevant in these United States; just shades of skin color.)
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To: Simon Green

Trump did no such thing, and you damn well know it.


19 posted on 11/15/2018 8:36:55 AM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: grumpygresh

Next thing you know the sons of bitches will re-classify revolvers as NFA.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM


20 posted on 11/15/2018 8:38:40 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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