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Error in major climate study revealed – warming NOT higher than expected
FoxNews.com ^ | Nov 17, 2018 | Maxim Lott | Fox News

Posted on 11/18/2018 9:54:28 AM PST by ETL

A major new climate study in the journal Nature got worldwide media coverage for finding that the oceans warmed dramatically faster than previously thought — but now the researchers have retracted that conclusion after a man in the United Kingdom blogged about flaws he discovered in the paper.

Just two weeks after publication, the study authors have revised their paper, and now conclude that the oceans are warming fast -- but at the same rate as other measurements have found.

A study co-author took responsibility for the error.

“I accept responsibility for these oversights because it was my role to ensure that details of the measurements were correctly understood and taken up by coauthors,” study co-author Ralph Keeling wrote in an explanation of the revision.

The error was first discovered by Nic Lewis, a retired British man who holds a bachelors degree in math from the University of Cambridge and who reads science papers for fun. He has also written a couple of published papers of his own on climate science.

“I've always liked to understand the world and to check whether people's research makes sense to me. Once I find something that seems wrong to me, I like to get to the bottom of it,” Lewis told Fox News.

Lewis said the incident should serve as a cautionary tale.

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High-profile ocean warming paper to get a correction

ScienceMag.org ^ | Nov 14, 2018 | Christa Marshall, E&E News

Originally published by E&E News

Scientists behind a major study on ocean warming this month are acknowledging errors in their calculations and say conclusions are not as certain as first reported.

The research, published in the journal Nature, said oceans are warming much faster than previously estimated and are taking up more energy than projected by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) [Climatewire, Nov. 1].

After a blog post flagged some discrepancies in the study, the authors, from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in San Diego, California, and Princeton University in New Jersey, said they would submit a correction to the journal.

The overall conclusion that oceans are trapping more and more heat mirrors other studies and is not inaccurate, but the margin of error in the study is larger than originally thought, said Ralph Keeling, a professor of geosciences at Scripps and co-author of the paper.

"These problems do not invalidate the methodology or the new insights into ocean biogeochemistry on which it is based, but they do influence the mean rate of warming we infer, and more importantly, the uncertainties of that calculation," said Keeling in a statement on RealClimate.org.

He added that he accepts "responsibility for these oversights, because it was my role to ensure that details of the measurements were correctly understood and taken up by coauthors."

Scripps corrected a news release on its website, with a statement from Keeling.

"Obviously this is difficult but I am glad we are setting it right," said Laure Resplandy, an associate professor of geosciences at Princeton who was the disputed paper's lead author, in an email.

A spokesperson for Nature said "issues relating to this paper have been brought to Nature's attention and we are looking into them carefully. We take all concerns related to papers we have published very seriously and will issue an update once further information is available."

"Science is complex"

The errors were pointed out by British researcher Nic Lewis on the blog of Judith Curry, a former professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology's School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences who has questioned the accuracy of some climate models.

"Just a few hours of analysis and calculations, based only on published information, was sufficient to uncover apparently serious (but surely inadvertent) errors in the underlying calculations," Lewis wrote.

The study suggested greenhouse gas emissions may need to be cut much faster than anticipated to meet climate targets, because of more aggressive ocean warming calculated in a new model. The team examined changes in atmospheric ocean and carbon dioxide levels to assess how the ocean's heat content has changed over time.

Keeling said the team incorrectly assessed oxygen measurements. Ocean warming likely is still greater than IPCC estimates, but the range of probability is more in line with previous studies.

"The more important message is that our study lacks the accuracy to narrow the range of previous estimates of ocean uptake," Keeling said in an email. He thanked Lewis for pointing out the anomaly.

Gavin Schmidt, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said it's not unheard of for there to be occasional errors in peer-reviewed studies.

"The fact is that science is complex, and when you have a lot of different steps from people in different sub-fields, it is understandable that some things slip through the cracks," Schmidt said. "While it's initially embarrassing, post-publication review is helpful and ultimately constructive."

In the past, scientific debates about climate science have prompted skeptics to attack mainstream climate science generally. Some climate scientists said they are concerned that could happen again in this case and the outcome wildly misinterpreted.

When asked about the response of skeptics, climate scientist Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University in State College said, "We can't worry about that."

"We have to just call it as we see it, do good science, put it out there, defend it and, when necessary, correct it. That's the legitimate scientific process, and it stands in stark contrast to the tactics employed by the forces of pseudoscience and antiscience," Mann said.

This morning the website Climate Depot, which frequently targets mainstream climate science, sent out an email with the headline, "Skeptic review dismantles study."

1 posted on 11/18/2018 9:54:28 AM PST by ETL
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2 posted on 11/18/2018 9:55:04 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

CO2 is so passe.

They FULLY realize CO2 doesn’t not, never has , driven temperatures so, the old BAIT AND SWITCH.

CO2 has been dropped and replaced with another element on the Periodic Table- CARBON.

See how that works? LIFE is CARBON based. YOU, living your life are a pollutant so they can regulate everything you do.


3 posted on 11/18/2018 9:58:56 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

does not*


4 posted on 11/18/2018 9:59:16 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: ETL

It doesn’t matter if there has been a retraction. The original, flawed study will be cited forever. That’s just the way the Internet works.


5 posted on 11/18/2018 10:00:10 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ETL

Someone tell Romneeebitch.


6 posted on 11/18/2018 10:01:22 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: ETL

Just streaming some old “All in the Fammily” episodes, in a particular the 1974 one where Gloria wants a baby but Mike feels the world “in twenty years” will have a catastrophic end. You’d think Rob Reiner would remember those episodes and be too embarrassed to open his yap anymore. . . .NOT.

Thinking of posting that clip on social media for the millenials who weren’t born yet to get an eyeful of the horrifically wrong “predictions.” Meathead “Many scientists think that blah blah blah blah”


7 posted on 11/18/2018 10:01:55 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mo"tther's actual parenting of children)
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To: ETL

Just yesterday while President Trump was visiting the destruction of Paradise California a reporter asked him if this changed his mind on global warming. His reply, “this is a forest management issue”.


8 posted on 11/18/2018 10:02:03 AM PST by Ben Mugged (He who lacks the will does not need the ability.)
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To: ETL

I guess you don’t come by to FP much?

This subject has been posted many, many times on FP since it was first noted.

Yes, this story is from 11/14/2018 but they are late to the party.


9 posted on 11/18/2018 10:02:30 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ETL
Also the ozone hole has healed itself, but it's not being reported loudly... 😒
10 posted on 11/18/2018 10:02:33 AM PST by proust ("The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today.")
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To: ETL

This is how Grant money works. NOW, everyone has to examine THEIR findings based on tyhose erroneous findings....and they will all need more Grant Money to do that....and they will get it.


11 posted on 11/18/2018 10:04:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ETL

So naturally we’ll be getting an apology and trillions of dollars back.


12 posted on 11/18/2018 10:05:21 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: ETL
"Just a few hours of analysis and calculations, based only on published information, was sufficient to uncover apparently serious (but surely inadvertent) errors in the underlying calculations," Lewis wrote.

Right...as inadvertent and confused as Broward and Palm Beach counties election officials.

13 posted on 11/18/2018 10:05:28 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Ben Mugged

Headline....Reporter gets “Trumped”.


14 posted on 11/18/2018 10:05:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ETL

So much for “Settled Science”


15 posted on 11/18/2018 10:08:19 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: ETL

This is what happens when you judge these things on short term studies instead of long term studies.

Only substantial history can truly dictate the future.


16 posted on 11/18/2018 10:08:42 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Para-Ord.45

They would have been better off sticking with the air and water pollution position from the 70’s. They would have accomplished much more for the world.

Instead they have chosen to take an ideological position which served its intended purpose. To indoctrinate an entire generation into leftist philosophy.


17 posted on 11/18/2018 10:09:15 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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To: ETL

I’ve stopped arguing with these ‘climate change morons and just ask them let’s all agree pollution is bad, and it should ALL be stopped, right?” ... then I ask them to explain how the ‘Paris Agreement’ stopped pollution.

When they confirm that they don’t know (as expected) I tell them that it didn’t- it allowed China and other countries to INCREASE pollution, while transferring huge sums of money from the USA to them.


18 posted on 11/18/2018 10:10:51 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: PeteB570
I guess you don’t come by to FP much? This subject has been posted many, many times on FP since it was first noted.

What a stupid reply. Are you saying we shouldn't point out their "mistakes" as they come along?

19 posted on 11/18/2018 10:13:11 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Whew! Something sanfran nan can take off her to do list. Now she can concentrate on the PDJT impeachment efforts.


20 posted on 11/18/2018 10:14:32 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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