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Man charged in white nationalist rally to argue self-defense
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 6, 2018 | DENISE LAVOIE

Posted on 11/28/2018 1:17:31 PM PST by libstripper

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — An Ohio man charged with killing a woman during a white nationalist rally in Virginia plans to argue that he believed he was acting in self-defense when he drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antifa; charlottesville; death; heyer; riot
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To: libstripper

He didn’t “drive into a crowd of protesters” from what I saw. He was surrounded by rioters and tried to drive out. Maybe he just didn’t want to be another Reginald Denny.


21 posted on 11/28/2018 2:32:40 PM PST by Hugin ("Not one step rom his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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To: JayGalt

compare with how FakeNewsMSM worldwide reported the death of Chantal Mazet in France:

17 Nov: BBC: France fuel protest: One dead in ‘yellow vest’ blockades
The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated...
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.
The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46233560

there has been no follow-up re the driver.

French-language Le Parisien (translated below) seems to be the only outlet that dug deeper into the death of the mother of four, with several grand-children, who was a recent retiree, and a first-time protester:

17 Nov: Le Parisien: Yellow vests: who was Chantal, dead, crushed on a barricade
Chantal was crushed by the driver of a big Audi who said she panicked in the sight of the demonstrators. Yellow Waistcoat, Sandrine witnessed the drama: The driver arrived very aggressive on the barricade at the wheel of her powerful 4 x 4 saying I have a doctor’s appointment for my child. Let me through. Demonstrators recognize that blows were then dealt on the car. “The driver put a first accelerator, a second,” tells Sandrine. “And on the third, she knocked down Chantal, literally crushing her with the front and back wheels. It was terrible. We understood immediately that there was nothing more to do for Chantal.”...
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/gilets-jaunes-qui-etait-chantal-morte-ecrasee-sur-un-barrage-17-11-2018-7945344.php


22 posted on 11/28/2018 2:41:16 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Responsibility2nd
The people in Charlottesville pretend antifa was not there or involved.
23 posted on 11/28/2018 2:48:01 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: MAGAthon

Very difficult to have any faith in what we are told these days.


24 posted on 11/28/2018 2:54:38 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: libstripper

The article doesn’t say, but he is being charged with murder.

Since he could not have plowed INTO a crowd that had already surrounded & swarmed over his car, a fair jury would never convict.

Since he did plow OUT OF the crowd the only chance the prosecution would have with a fair jury is a guilt of manslaughter.

But who knows how the jury can be stacked.


25 posted on 11/28/2018 3:09:10 PM PST by drpix
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To: libstripper

The execrable AP, without any proof, claimed there was a white nationalist rally in Virginia.


26 posted on 11/28/2018 3:37:44 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: stylin19a

Protesters attacked Charlottesville driver’s car with baseball bat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX7V4bVO10


27 posted on 11/28/2018 3:38:25 PM PST by tbw2
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To: stylin19a

A few seconds more
Charlotte Car Driver Attacked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coezCRY_djU


28 posted on 11/28/2018 3:39:12 PM PST by tbw2
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To: IrishBrigade

“it’s true that she wasn’t attacked, but the incipient cause of the heart attack was injury from the car accident...”

How would anyone know that? Maybe she drank too much whiskey in the morning and that caused the heart attack.


29 posted on 11/28/2018 3:50:26 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: IrishBrigade

Where’s the video evidence that his vehicle even touched her? She was a morbidly obese woman and a smoker in black Antifa garb on a very hot day. Could have been a spontaneous heart attack.


30 posted on 11/28/2018 3:57:00 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Electric Graffiti

Please read the article. His trial is about to start.


31 posted on 11/28/2018 3:57:54 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Trump20162020

Prove it. Show the video.


32 posted on 11/28/2018 3:59:33 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Jack Black; libstripper

The Judge does not care what you think, he will be listening to the medical examiner. It would be best if you read his report before you go in and give your expert testimony in support of Fields


33 posted on 11/28/2018 4:29:41 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Because the event was caught on video tape from multiple angles by multiple shooters, and I have seen all that even down to slow motion.

Yeah, who should I believe, you, the medical examiner or my own lyin' eyes?

34 posted on 11/28/2018 4:45:04 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I do agree that judge does not care what I think.

But there are several hundred articles posted a day on Free Republic and no one outside of Free Republic cares what anyone says about any of them.

In other words: this is a news discussion forum.

Got it! Thanks!


35 posted on 11/28/2018 4:47:06 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Jack Black

If that is case, then you need to go down to the trial and testify. He’s up for 1st degree murder.


36 posted on 11/28/2018 4:53:53 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Hugin
You are right. He did not "“drive into a crowd of protesters".

His car impacted into the back of another car that was stuck at an intersection that was full or protesters. It was a chain-crash, and most of the people hit by cars were hit by the car he ran into, although that car also hit the car in front of it, and that third car hit some people too.

37 posted on 11/28/2018 4:53:59 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Jack Black

Sheesh, the news reports made it sound as if he rammed into a crowd of people.

But what you posted is closer to what the video shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuCh_75G8cg


38 posted on 11/28/2018 5:02:14 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Jack Black

On second thought, this one shows a different angle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czc428jdZgo

It appears he did drive right in, and then backed up.


39 posted on 11/28/2018 5:05:48 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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You can see the moment of impact and immediately after here, starting around 2:20.

It appears he kept the car right in the middle of the one way one lane road, avoiding hitting the masses of protesters on either sidewalk, and ran directly into the back of the car stopped in his lane (which was stopped because of protesters in front of that car).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhqf78TQlw

This is the start of his run down the hill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Plzx73K68

Reverse angle of the collision and aftermath. He does certainly hit some people reversing out of the accident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cF9dngn8ZA

40 posted on 11/28/2018 5:09:00 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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