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Pot Addicts Are Okay But Legitimate Chronic Pain Sufferers In Need of Opioids? Not So Much.
Townhall.com ^ | December 17, 2018 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 12/17/2018 11:04:47 AM PST by Kaslin

There is a strange dichotomy taking place in society today. On the one hand, laws against marijuana are being eliminated. People who abuse pot are now able to feed their addiction with an overly generous supply of the drug. For example, in Arizona, where medical marijuana is legal, users can purchase up to 2.5 ounces every two weeks. This is enough to be stoned every day. Once you have a prescription, you can refill it for an entire year without going back to renew the prescription. It’s easy to get a prescription in most states that have legalized medical marijuana, just inform a doctor you have pain. And if you live in a state like California that has legalized recreational marijuana, there aren’t even any limits on how much you can buy (just how much you can have on hand). 

In contrast, opioids, which are commonly prescribed for chronic pain and have been legal for years (with the exception of heroin and some fentanyl) are becoming increasingly restricted. Legitimate chronic pain sufferers who depend on them to reduce their pain are finding themselves going days without any medication or undermedicated as a result of the new crackdown. It began because people were overdosing on opioids. 

By October of this year, 33 states had passed laws limiting opioid prescriptions. They limit the supply a doctor may prescribe to seven days or less. This exponentially increases problems with timely refilling prescriptions. One chronic pain sufferer complained, “The insurance companies are lying to their own subscribers in the Prior Auth Dept, ignoring, transferring to dead lines, long appeals that go nowhere, on & on….” It also means more co-pays. Some states are now requiring doctors and pharmacists to take a course on opioids.

Many states have limited the maximum dose as well. Federal opioid prescribing guidelines recommend doctors use caution in prescribing above 50 MME/day. But many patients need 90 MME/day or higher. In Arizona, patients are limited to 90 MME/day. There are exceptions for some types of illnesses — but not chronic pain. For those sufferers, they can only receive a higher dose if their doctor consults with a board-certified pain specialist. 

One woman in Arizona who suffers from chronic pain said her opioid dose was lowered from 100 MME/day to 90 MME/day as a result of the new laws. She said her pain has been "terrible" ever since. "It just hurts," she said. "I don't want to walk, I pretty much don't want to do anything."

Two medical associations in Arizona warned before the law was passed, “We strongly oppose putting any kind of dose-strength limitation in state law. ... Every patient is unique and there is no universally accepted threshold for what is acceptable for every situation. Some complex pain patients can be properly cared for and managed by appropriate providers with higher dosages that allow them to manage pain and be active members of society and our economy.”

Another new law requires pharmacists to check and make sure patients aren’t doctor hopping — doubling up on prescriptions. Any accidental overlap between prescriptions hurts the patient, who is humiliated at the pharmacy when caught. Senior citizens are treated by pharmaceutical staff like common criminals. 

Doctors risk sanctions if they don’t comply with the new laws. As a result, fewer doctors are prescribing opioids. This is making it more difficult for patients to find doctors. After the laws were passed, doctors reported “feeling pressure to lower patient doses, even for patients who have been on stable regimens of opioids for years without trouble.”

Dr. Julian Grove, president of the Arizona Pain Society, says, "A lot of practitioners are reducing opioid medications, not from a clinical perspective, but more from a legal and regulatory perspective for fear of investigation. No practitioner wants to be the highest prescriber." Even doctors that specialize in pain management are feeling pressure to reduce dosages.

Psychiatrist Sally Satel, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, says the problem traces back to guidelines put in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2016. The guidelines were not meant to apply to pain specialists, nor were they to be applied as a blanket policy to every patient. "There is no mandate to reduce doses on people who have been doing well," Satel said.

Ironically, chronic pain sufferers are told to switch to medical marijuana to ease their pain — but it doesn’t work for everyone’s pain. A recent Australian study found that marijuana does little for pain.  

The reality, according to the National Pain Report, is “America’s so-called ‘opioid epidemic’ is caused by street drugs (some of them diverted prescription drugs)  rather than by prescriptions made by doctors to chronic pain patients.” More people die from illegal opioids than prescription opioids. Opioid prescriptions were already decreasing before the crackdown started. In Arizona, prescriptions decreased every year since 2013, a 10 percent decrease total. &

And just because a few doctors overprescribed opioids does not mean everyone should be treated like a dangerous addict at risk of overdosing. One size does not fit all. Someone who has been taking a higher dosage of prescription opioids for years without incident should be allowed to continue.  

Over 11 percent of the population suffers from chronic pain. It is cruel and bad medical science to prevent this segment from the population from getting the only relief that works for many of them. The laws need to be changed to allow those legitimately suffering to access adequate amounts of prescription opioids, without risk to their doctor or pharmacist. It makes no sense as we’re relaxing the laws prohibiting marijuana.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: addiction; cannabis; drugs; freedom; legalizeit; liberty; marijuana; medicalpot; medicine; opioidaddiction; pot; potheads; potismedicine; wod
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To: Beagle8U

I don’t have any problem stopping every cent of support for anybody who is physically capable of working but doesn’t- especially with the current low unemployment rate.

Genuinely disabled or unable to find a job is one thing; unwilling to clean up to pass a test and/or simply unwilling to work- starve to death in the street for all I care.

It’s just the same imbeciles claiming that pot makes a person unproductive who also bitch and gripe about cannabis smokers such as Gates and Zuckerman, Bloomberg or Branson - while one might dislike their politics they give the lie to the crap about cannabis users being unable to function in society


41 posted on 12/17/2018 11:44:50 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I take it from your post you think it is a good idea for the government to outlaw pot smoking. Do you imagine that most posters who disagree with you smoke pot?
I’d guess the group of those who disagree with you has a high percentage of libertarian leaners. I’d also guess that the percentage of pot smokers on this forum who post disagreeing messages is close to zero.


42 posted on 12/17/2018 11:45:02 AM PST by conejo99
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To: The Westerner
My bedridden 80+ year old mother can now only get 14 days of pain pills at a time. My elderly father has to go get them for her. Sometimes it takes him hours or several trips because of the new paperwork and regulations.
43 posted on 12/17/2018 11:46:10 AM PST by skyman
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To: jcon40

I know all that. My wife has two prescriptions (from her primary physician, a real doctor:

For arthritis:

Celebrex, Pot.

The doctor told her to only take the Celebrex if she’s having a really bad day and pot isn’t getting the job done. The doctor says the Celebrex is much worse for her than the pot, and she’d rather have the wife smoking pot than taking Celebrex.

I don’t care about comparing the two myself. Opioid use needs to stand on it’s own as a good idea or a bad one. I know a lady who was recovering from cancer and was put on opioids. She said she went through hell for 6 months getting off them.


44 posted on 12/17/2018 11:46:52 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: Leep
Do you think there are any respitory issues associated with smoking weed?
HYPOCRITE THERE ARE RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS WITH ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTES AND THEY ARE MUCH WORSE BUT THEY ARE LEGAL AND EVERYONE IS SANCTIMONIOUS BECAUSE THEY GET THEIR SH*T BUT I CAN'T GET MINE AND I WANT MY POT !!1!
45 posted on 12/17/2018 11:47:31 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: JohnBrowdie

Too late John.

These folks will NEVER rest until they can get every drug known to man to be available in McDonald’s style drive-through businesses.


46 posted on 12/17/2018 11:49:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: JimRed

I knew a guy who was getting opioids from multiple doctors for “recreation”, but really because he was addicted. After 25 years of that he was taking about 5 times normal dose a day. He’s dead, heart failure at 67.

I of course can’t speak to how much effect on his heart was due to the drugs. He liked Vicodin, I know that.


47 posted on 12/17/2018 11:50:46 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
“Opioids were involved in 42,249 overdose deaths in 2016 (66.4% of all drug overdose deaths).” The numbers have gone up since then too.“

Says who? The same lying government reporting about child gun deaths? The same lying government that reports the extreme number of alcohol related accidents? Im sorry I just dont believe this bullshit, and for good reason. I bet the number of legally prescribed overdoses is no where near that number. There is an agenda here and once again it has nothing to do with the good of the people.

48 posted on 12/17/2018 11:50:51 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

If you are going to believe whatever you please with no evidence, just your “feelz”, fine with me, I don’t care.

That attitude is rampant everywhere today about everything.


49 posted on 12/17/2018 11:52:05 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: morphing libertarian
source? Numbers for this new phenomonen..,,

https://www.huzlers.com/59-people-die-of-marijuana-overdose-in-colorado-and-washington/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-denver-deaths-tied-to-recreational-marijuana-use/

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/27/another-view-of-traffic-deaths-blamed-on-cannabis-in-cdot-study/

Search is your friend and education. There was a page more of sources.

50 posted on 12/17/2018 11:52:49 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Yossarian

My doctor is deaf about opioids.


51 posted on 12/17/2018 11:54:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Its funny how even puffing on an e-cig send libs into a frenzy but filling a room with mariguana smoke is just fine.


52 posted on 12/17/2018 11:54:22 AM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Kaslin

Federal Government should get out of health care altogether except the protection from epidemic communicable disease.


53 posted on 12/17/2018 11:55:24 AM PST by the_daug
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To: SaxxonWoods

House?


54 posted on 12/17/2018 11:55:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: thoughtomator

“This person isn’t a doctor and has no business writing this article.”

I’m not either but could have written the same thing about the filthy government meddling in personal medical matters. My hope is that every politician/bureacrat responsible themselves suffer grievous chronic pain.


55 posted on 12/17/2018 11:55:33 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Hypocrite?
I ask you specifically about weed.


56 posted on 12/17/2018 11:56:48 AM PST by Leep (we need a Trump like leader for President 2024!)
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To: Retvet

“Never heard of death by marijuana overdose.”

Yeah, but you may die of self-righteous Smugness


57 posted on 12/17/2018 11:58:43 AM PST by heights
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To: Retvet

Maybe not. However, stoned people kill people on roads. DUI’s from weed have risen. Not good.


58 posted on 12/17/2018 11:59:36 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

BTW you can smoke dog shit, or snort booze, for all I care..as long as I don’t have to pay for an medical issues that result from doing so.


59 posted on 12/17/2018 12:00:12 PM PST by Leep (we need a Trump like leader for President 2024!)
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To: mountainlion

This is what you posted and I asked for a source.

Emergency rooms were deluged with psychotic problems when Colorado legalized. One kid freaked out and jumped out a window to his death and another one thought he could fly.

The pelt with links you posted is non-responsive to your comment I inquired about.

Psychosis is not a typical result of smoking pot.

Best case scenario the death of people using drugs is natural selection and weeds (pun intended) out the weakest of the species.


60 posted on 12/17/2018 12:00:44 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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